stocking a 50 gallon!

tenaj-6 · 07-12-2008, 03:18 PM

So far im goint to put in a rtbs 2 clown loach (getting a 3rd when i find one of similar size about 1 inch) a leopard pleco ( i know it gets big).

what else could i put in there hopefully ill be planting the tank also.

**lohachata** · 07-12-2008, 03:40 PM

you are already way overstocked..i wouldn't put anything else in there..

FishHead · 07-12-2008, 07:31 PM

i wouldnt put clown loaches in a 50. They will outgrow that tank pretty quickly. I would return them asap.

JustOneMore20 · 07-12-2008, 07:35 PM

They grow slow, but I agree about not having them in a 50g. Unless you know for certain that you will get them a larger tank in the next couple years.

If you go with those fish though, you should consider adding something that hangs out in the upper or mid levels, like a schooling fish.

blcknwitecuban · 07-12-2008, 10:31 PM

yea clown loaches take a while to get big. so a 50g long term isnt gonna work. & idk what a rtbs is.

Blue Cray · 07-12-2008, 10:59 PM

rtbs = red tailed black shark.

**lohachata** · 07-12-2008, 11:33 PM

you kids need to quit being so lazy and start spelling out what you are saying..either that or you just can't spell it..
rtbs could mean a lot of things...
clown loaches grow about an inch a year..maybe a little more relative to conditions such as temperature,feeding schedule and frequency of water changes.red tail sharks grow faster and get to be about 8-10 inches long.if you are talking about a L-114 leopard cactus pleco...12-15 inches..leopard sailfin pleco..24 inches..if you put another clown loach in the tank,they should be good for another 5 or 6 years as long as you do 30% or so water changes every week.when the loaches get big they may well dig up plants..and the pleco may also be destructive to plants.a few congo tetras may go nicely in this set up..

tenaj-6 · 07-13-2008, 09:12 AM

ill defo get a larger tank for the clowns when they need it. would a 125 be ok for them later on?

**lohachata** · 07-13-2008, 09:38 AM

yes...a 125 will "definately" be big enough..but is ill defo some kind of disease or what???

tenaj-6 · 07-13-2008, 10:01 AM

ill defo == i'll definatly

**lohachata** · 07-13-2008, 12:36 PM

obviously you have a great deal of difficulty with the english language..such a shame to see our educational system in such a shambles..

GoodMike · 07-13-2008, 02:27 PM

wow john....just wow. This is the internet, people use all sorts of abbreviations here. You know what they are talking about 95% of the time, so what is with the big complaining fest? rtbs is a very common abbreviation for the red tail black shark, its nothing new...its not an invention of "you kids". you act as if abbreviations can tell you the intelligence level of a person... and you act as if you are some perfect person because you don't abbreviate. You know as well as i do, you are not any better than anyone else on the forum. Quit strutting around like your crap don't stink.... seriously...

Go ahead, get me in trouble again for saying it like it is.

OH and btw john, you misspelled definitely

**lohachata** · 07-13-2008, 04:15 PM

i never said i was any better than others.and most certainly far from being perfect.and don't strut around like my crap don't stink..especially because it does;and worst than most.and never heard that rtbs meant red tail black shark.it took me a minute;but i did figure it out.but i had to sift through the couple of thousand names in my head first.i never got you in trouble mike..you did that yourself.
i misspell a lot of words..i am an uneducated twit..
try submitting some court documents with a bunch of abreviations and see what happens...
i really don't care so much what people say about me;i am well aware that a lot don't care for me..mainly because i just don't agree with their ideas..no biggie..

GoodMike · 07-13-2008, 04:43 PM

actually, we submit court documents with abbreviations all the time. its preferred by a lot

. the court does it as well. and if you really think i got myself in to trouble then you have no idea about anything, but that is something we can discuss in private. My whole point here.....is what was the point of you jumping up and down all over tenaj-6 like you did? that is definitely not the behavior i would expect from the mods of a forum, it was down right rude and uncalled for. You can admit that you are an "uneducated twit", but that does not mean you can run around saying everyone else is.

Now on topic here.
If i were you, i would plan on upgrading tanks pretty soon, that way you can keep the fish you have, and add more to it and have a really nice tank all together. While the clown loaches may take a while to get big, they are quite active at night and can stress out other fish if they dont have the room to run. The rtbs can be pretty aggressive towards other fish, so again i suggest a larger tank to accommodate these fish.

**Obsidian** · 07-13-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenaj-6

ill defo == i'll definatly

Just pointing out that this was not John, but I can see where tenaj and John might be mistaken for each other. I mean they do both have a J in their names.

shade2dope · 07-13-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lohachata

yes...a 125 will "definately" be big enough..but is ill defo some kind of disease or what???

Maybe you should look again obsidain definitely is definitely spelled definitely.Not like above^^ lol I am sure this tread will be gone soon anyway. No one is perfect stuff happens.Maybe we should all get back to the subject myself included.

**Buggy** · 07-13-2008, 10:51 PM

The only thing I can see that we are accomplishing here is discouraging tenaj-6 from asking any more questions, which is DEFINITELY not what we want to do because we want the HELP her with her tank. So lets get out of the classroom and back into the fishroom, how about it?

GoodMike · 07-13-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy

So lets get out of the classroom and back into the fishroom, how about it?

kinda what i was pointing out, im just more blunt

. I think this is a great idea

justintrask · 07-14-2008, 04:13 PM

not to be completely out of nowhere, but John, I think you're one of my top favorites on this forum.

**lohachata** · 07-15-2008, 05:20 PM

are you sure you want to admit to that justin.you could wind up with a lot of enemies....lol....but i do thank you.
while i am no expert in the world of keeping fish;but i do think that 2 or 3 clown loaches can stay in a 50 gallon tank for a considerable time before needing to be moved to larger quarters.

07-12-2008, 03:18 PM	#1
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	stocking a 50 gallon! So far im goint to put in a rtbs 2 clown loach (getting a 3rd when i find one of similar size about 1 inch) a leopard pleco ( i know it gets big). what else could i put in there hopefully ill be planting the tank also.

07-12-2008, 03:40 PM	#2
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	you are already way overstocked..i wouldn't put anything else in there.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-12-2008, 07:31 PM	#3
FishHead What are you looking at? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 28 Posts: 603	i wouldnt put clown loaches in a 50. They will outgrow that tank pretty quickly. I would return them asap. __________________ 13 barbs (4x tigers, 2x greens, 3 odessas, 4 albino) 5 australian rainbowfish 4 buenos aires tetras 1 angelic pim catfish 1 pictus catfish 1 Spotted Hifin pleco 2 opaline gouramis 2 blue gouramis 5 panda cories 1 red tail shark 9 cherry barbs 2 Lionhead goldfish 1 black moor (saved from walmart) 7 peppered cories 3 swordtails 1 bristlenose pleco

07-12-2008, 10:31 PM	#5
blcknwitecuban SuperCowMonkeyShiner Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 17 Posts: 496	yea clown loaches take a while to get big. so a 50g long term isnt gonna work. & idk what a rtbs is. __________________ Yeah there are many fish in the sea.. but i think i'll stick to the lakes and rivers for now.

07-12-2008, 10:59 PM	#6
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07-12-2008, 07:35 PM	#4
JustOneMore20 Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,654	They grow slow, but I agree about not having them in a 50g. Unless you know for certain that you will get them a larger tank in the next couple years. If you go with those fish though, you should consider adding something that hangs out in the upper or mid levels, like a schooling fish.

07-12-2008, 11:33 PM	#7
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	you kids need to quit being so lazy and start spelling out what you are saying..either that or you just can't spell it.. rtbs could mean a lot of things... clown loaches grow about an inch a year..maybe a little more relative to conditions such as temperature,feeding schedule and frequency of water changes.red tail sharks grow faster and get to be about 8-10 inches long.if you are talking about a L-114 leopard cactus pleco...12-15 inches..leopard sailfin pleco..24 inches..if you put another clown loach in the tank,they should be good for another 5 or 6 years as long as you do 30% or so water changes every week.when the loaches get big they may well dig up plants..and the pleco may also be destructive to plants.a few congo tetras may go nicely in this set up.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-13-2008, 09:12 AM	#8
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	ill defo get a larger tank for the clowns when they need it. would a 125 be ok for them later on?

07-13-2008, 09:38 AM	#9
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	yes...a 125 will "definately" be big enough..but is ill defo some kind of disease or what??? __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-13-2008, 10:01 AM	#10
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	ill defo == i'll definatly

07-13-2008, 12:36 PM	#11
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	obviously you have a great deal of difficulty with the english language..such a shame to see our educational system in such a shambles.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-13-2008, 02:27 PM	#12
GoodMike Banned Join Date: May 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 558	wow john....just wow. This is the internet, people use all sorts of abbreviations here. You know what they are talking about 95% of the time, so what is with the big complaining fest? rtbs is a very common abbreviation for the red tail black shark, its nothing new...its not an invention of "you kids". you act as if abbreviations can tell you the intelligence level of a person... and you act as if you are some perfect person because you don't abbreviate. You know as well as i do, you are not any better than anyone else on the forum. Quit strutting around like your crap don't stink.... seriously... Go ahead, get me in trouble again for saying it like it is. OH and btw john, you misspelled definitely Last edited by GoodMike; 07-13-2008 at 02:30 PM. Reason: to prove a point :)

07-13-2008, 04:15 PM	#13
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	i never said i was any better than others.and most certainly far from being perfect.and don't strut around like my crap don't stink..especially because it does;and worst than most.and never heard that rtbs meant red tail black shark.it took me a minute;but i did figure it out.but i had to sift through the couple of thousand names in my head first.i never got you in trouble mike..you did that yourself. i misspell a lot of words..i am an uneducated twit.. try submitting some court documents with a bunch of abreviations and see what happens... i really don't care so much what people say about me;i am well aware that a lot don't care for me..mainly because i just don't agree with their ideas..no biggie.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-13-2008, 04:43 PM	#14
GoodMike Banned Join Date: May 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 558	actually, we submit court documents with abbreviations all the time. its preferred by a lot . the court does it as well. and if you really think i got myself in to trouble then you have no idea about anything, but that is something we can discuss in private. My whole point here.....is what was the point of you jumping up and down all over tenaj-6 like you did? that is definitely not the behavior i would expect from the mods of a forum, it was down right rude and uncalled for. You can admit that you are an "uneducated twit", but that does not mean you can run around saying everyone else is. Now on topic here. If i were you, i would plan on upgrading tanks pretty soon, that way you can keep the fish you have, and add more to it and have a really nice tank all together. While the clown loaches may take a while to get big, they are quite active at night and can stress out other fish if they dont have the room to run. The rtbs can be pretty aggressive towards other fish, so again i suggest a larger tank to accommodate these fish. Last edited by GoodMike; 07-13-2008 at 04:53 PM.

07-13-2008, 10:51 PM	#17
Buggy Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oklahoma Age: 42 Posts: 975	The only thing I can see that we are accomplishing here is discouraging tenaj-6 from asking any more questions, which is DEFINITELY not what we want to do because we want the HELP her with her tank. So lets get out of the classroom and back into the fishroom, how about it? __________________ Fish are people too! *My Animal Family* Dixie - Boxer/Lab Peanut -Chihuahua Cali - American Short-hair Cat B.B. - Parakeet Flower - Western Ornate Box Turtle Loki - White Ferret Odin - Brown Ferret *Aquariums* 55 gal tropical Fresh Water - 23 various fish 29 gal tropical Fresh Water - 4 various cichlids 10 gal tropical Fresh Water - 1 Red Male Betta, 3 black neon tetras, 1 Asian Glass Catfish

07-14-2008, 04:13 PM	#19
justintrask Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Allston, MA Age: 21 Posts: 375	not to be completely out of nowhere, but John, I think you're one of my top favorites on this forum.

07-15-2008, 05:20 PM	#20
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 664	are you sure you want to admit to that justin.you could wind up with a lot of enemies....lol....but i do thank you. while i am no expert in the world of keeping fish;but i do think that 2 or 3 clown loaches can stay in a 50 gallon tank for a considerable time before needing to be moved to larger quarters. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

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