Marineland/Perfecto

seLki · 08-08-2008, 11:20 PM

are they the same company? thanks.

emc7 · 08-08-2008, 11:54 PM

Not sure 1999 – Marineland acquires aquarium manufacturer Perfecto Manufacturing of Noblesville, Indiana.

Marine is now part of http://www.spectrumbrands.com/brands/index.htm. But spectrum brands doesn't list Perfecto on its brand list.

Edit: Yes it is http://www.unitedpetgroup.com/index.html

COM · 08-09-2008, 08:14 AM

Tetra, Marineland, Jungle, Perfecto, Instant Ocean, others, are all part of United Pet Group, which is an unintegrated business unit of Spectrum Brands, maker of Spectracide pesticide, Rayovac batteries, Remington shavers, Schultz potting soil, etc.

Spectrum is currently trying to sell its United Pet holdings but no one has come forward as a suitor for it yet.

justintrask · 08-09-2008, 08:18 AM

how much do they want for it?

COM · 08-09-2008, 08:42 AM

They had a deal to sell it to Salton for just under $700 million. I think that is probably a bit too much in the current credit market.

The EBITDA for the pet division is around $80 million. I would value the company at between $400 and $800 million, more towards about $550 to $600 because some of the brands in the portfolio are pure crap (Dingo, Jungle). Then again, I have a buyer's mindset so I might be lowballing.

Wanna stage a takeover? I'm game for it.

justintrask · 08-09-2008, 08:44 AM

That's pocket change for me

COM · 08-09-2008, 08:59 AM

Leveraged buyout.

seLki · 08-09-2008, 10:32 AM

so if you were to buy a perfecto tank would u get that instead of the marineland? Which is higher in quality? maybe same but different name of product? Lol...

seLki · 08-09-2008, 10:32 AM

i have a 125 marineland but i want to get a 180 perfecto because my friend says perfecto is better then marineland..but i hear from elsewhere that they are the same company...

COM · 08-09-2008, 11:30 PM

Same thing. Marineland never made tanks before United bought out Perfecto.

Clerk · 08-10-2008, 05:16 PM

All Marineland tanks are made by Perfecto, at least all the ones I sell.

seLki · 08-13-2008, 12:15 AM

thanks guys.

seLki · 08-13-2008, 05:54 PM

another question, how long do you think a lifespan will be for fly river turtles in a 6x2x2? i have 2 baby in a75 but plan to transfer to the 180 for their enitre lifetime.

trashion · 08-13-2008, 08:08 PM

seLki, you'll get more answers if you post a new thread

seLki · 08-14-2008, 02:14 AM

haha thanks

08-08-2008, 11:20 PM	#1
seLki Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26	Marineland/Perfecto are they the same company? thanks.

08-08-2008, 11:54 PM	#2
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,626	Not sure 1999 – Marineland acquires aquarium manufacturer Perfecto Manufacturing of Noblesville, Indiana. Marine is now part of http://www.spectrumbrands.com/brands/index.htm. But spectrum brands doesn't list Perfecto on its brand list. Edit: Yes it is http://www.unitedpetgroup.com/index.html Last edited by emc7; 08-09-2008 at 12:00 AM.

08-09-2008, 08:14 AM	#3
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	Tetra, Marineland, Jungle, Perfecto, Instant Ocean, others, are all part of United Pet Group, which is an unintegrated business unit of Spectrum Brands, maker of Spectracide pesticide, Rayovac batteries, Remington shavers, Schultz potting soil, etc. Spectrum is currently trying to sell its United Pet holdings but no one has come forward as a suitor for it yet. __________________ 3 Planted Tanks: 10g, 20g, and 29g

08-09-2008, 08:18 AM	#4
justintrask Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Allston, MA Age: 21 Posts: 355	how much do they want for it? __________________ ------------------------------------------ Everything you have just read is out of my own opinion and/or experiences. Take with a grain of salt. ------------------------------------------ 8" Jardini Arowana 7" Ornate Bichir 2 - 7" Synodontic Nigrita 2 Pairs - Honduran Red Points (plus ~30 fry) 1 Pair - Wild Plakat Bettas (plus ~50 fry) 4" Firemouth Among others...

08-09-2008, 08:42 AM	#5
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	They had a deal to sell it to Salton for just under $700 million. I think that is probably a bit too much in the current credit market. The EBITDA for the pet division is around $80 million. I would value the company at between $400 and $800 million, more towards about $550 to $600 because some of the brands in the portfolio are pure crap (Dingo, Jungle). Then again, I have a buyer's mindset so I might be lowballing. Wanna stage a takeover? I'm game for it. __________________ 3 Planted Tanks: 10g, 20g, and 29g

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08-09-2008, 08:44 AM	#6
justintrask Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Allston, MA Age: 21 Posts: 355	That's pocket change for me __________________ ------------------------------------------ Everything you have just read is out of my own opinion and/or experiences. Take with a grain of salt. ------------------------------------------ 8" Jardini Arowana 7" Ornate Bichir 2 - 7" Synodontic Nigrita 2 Pairs - Honduran Red Points (plus ~30 fry) 1 Pair - Wild Plakat Bettas (plus ~50 fry) 4" Firemouth Among others...

08-09-2008, 08:59 AM	#7
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	Leveraged buyout. __________________ 3 Planted Tanks: 10g, 20g, and 29g

08-09-2008, 10:32 AM	#8
seLki Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26	so if you were to buy a perfecto tank would u get that instead of the marineland? Which is higher in quality? maybe same but different name of product? Lol...

08-09-2008, 11:30 PM	#10
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	Same thing. Marineland never made tanks before United bought out Perfecto. __________________ 3 Planted Tanks: 10g, 20g, and 29g

08-10-2008, 05:16 PM	#11
Clerk I Left w/ My Krew Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 471	All Marineland tanks are made by Perfecto, at least all the ones I sell. __________________ Four Tanks 55 Gallon - Planted Display Tank 50 Gallon Community 20 Gallon - High-Light Planted Breeder 29 Gallon - Newt

08-13-2008, 12:15 AM	#12
seLki Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26	thanks guys.

08-13-2008, 05:54 PM	#13
seLki Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26	another question, how long do you think a lifespan will be for fly river turtles in a 6x2x2? i have 2 baby in a75 but plan to transfer to the 180 for their enitre lifetime.

08-13-2008, 08:08 PM	#14
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,409	seLki, you'll get more answers if you post a new thread __________________ current setup: 5.5 gallon low-light planted tank -nothing....thinking a mini-community. for reference: my name is Julie

08-14-2008, 02:14 AM	#15
seLki Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26	haha thanks

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