can i

[endlerguppy]

can i keep 2 goldfish which are about 2-3 inches each with 13 white cloud mountain minnows which are quite small in a 10 gallon tank?

[ZebraDanio12]

Not for long. 13 white clouds is a ton. I think adding goldfish would overload the tank, plus goldfish really need a big tank.

[endlerguppy]

i would only keep them in there until the golfish get a bit bigger so they can go with my sturgeon and do you think i could have 5 breeding pairs of endler guppies in a 10 litre tank?

[ZebraDanio12]

Its pushing it.... And 10 liters is around 2.5 gallons. That's wayyy too small for that many endles. That would be 10 fish and would be uncomfortable for them and make fry survival rates very low. I sugest a 10 gallon(or even better, bigger), heavily planted for breeding endlers. Fry have a better chance of surviving and the parents would be way more comfortable.

[Fishy friend2]

I agree with the above posts

for an endler combination like that to work I would recommend atleast a 10 gallon aquarium. Preferably 15 for the endelrs to thrive and extra water changes. If you are going to let them breed freely then I would recommend an even larger aquarium if you are going to keep the fry around 30-40 gallons.

For the minnows and goldfish temporarily (1-2 months) I would recommend a minimum of a cycled 20 gallon aquarium with extra water changes - 25% x2 weekly should suffice.

I think you should just go along with a nicely stocked ten gallon Tank. Heavily planted, cycled, and have a white sand substrate with the following

- 1 Male Betta Splendens. AKA Siamese Fighting Fish

- 5 Malaysian Trumpet Snails. Or 5 regular Ramshorn Snails. Contact me if you can't find them, I would happily sell them to you

- 8 Boraras Brigittae. Or 8 Ember Tetras

- Anubias Nana

-Rotala Rotundifolia

- Ludwigia Repens

- Hornwort

-Anacharis

- Frogbit

-Anacharis

[endlerguppy]

i will try to get atleast a 20 litre tank for the endlers i will hopefully getting the tank and the 5 females either tomoz or on tuesday.

[Fishy friend2]

Please don't do that, a 20 liter cannot fully support a group that big. For a 5 gallon aquarium I would recommend only a trio. 5 females would easily create an ammonia spike, and your tank is most likely not cycled.

Do you know what cycling is and how it can take anywhere from 1-2 months, not a few days, I would also read up on the aquarium nitrogen cycle if I were you.

Another stocking would be

- 1 Male Betta Splendens

- 5 ramshorn or Malaysian trumpet snails

- 6 male Endlers

[endlerguppy]

i know about the nitrogen cycle i have a filter which is cycled and is being used at the minute but i will probably be getting a 10 gallon tank.

[grogan]

well sounds like you have already made up your mind then.

[lohachata]

one wonders why a question was ever asked in the first place....

[ZebraDanio12]

I agree with fishyfriend. 5 gallons is pretty dang small. Its great for shrimp, and a a couple small fish. But I would only recommended a single pair. Within months your tank will be fillllled with fish. Take this from experience. I have an Aunt i gave a pair of cobra guppies to. Her tank has about 20 fish in it after a couple months....Donating time. 10 gallons would be the minimum I suggest.

[endlerguppy]

i am getting the tank and everything on wednesday and the fish will be put in the tank with the males for atleast a day then moved in.do you think a 5-10 gallon tank (or as big as i can get), bright orange gravel,filter lots of plants and about 5 pairs of endlers and about 2-10 baby endlers bought from the store.

[Fishy friend2]

No. A minimum of a 15 gallon will be needed for 5 pairs. And more. Not a weency little 5 gallon. They are great for bettas, but not large groups of fish