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Old 11-02-2012, 08:19 PM   #1
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How long does it take for neutralizer to settle? I put it in yesterday, I did a water test a little while ago and it was still acidic.


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Old 11-02-2012, 09:37 PM   #2
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Anyone please?


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8 Neon Tetras
1 Cherry Barb
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1 Balloon Red-Eyed Tetras
2 Bloodfin Tetras
3 Gold Barbs
2 Albino Corycats
3 Kulhi Loaches
2 Bushynose Plecos
1 Gibbicep Pleco
1 Raphael's Catfish
2 Swordtails
1 Neon Gourami
1 German Blue Ram
7 Juvenile Endler Guppies
2 Harlequin Rasboras
1 Green GloTetra
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3 Otos
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:58 PM   #3
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Read the instructions. Usually you put in one dose and test again the next day and add more if needed, repeat.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:02 PM   #4
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I put in half dose tonight. Should I test again tomorrow







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4 X-Ray Pristella Tetras
8 Neon Tetras
1 Cherry Barb
2 Black Mollies
1 Balloon Red-Eyed Tetras
2 Bloodfin Tetras
3 Gold Barbs
2 Albino Corycats
3 Kulhi Loaches
2 Bushynose Plecos
1 Gibbicep Pleco
1 Raphael's Catfish
2 Swordtails
1 Neon Gourami
1 German Blue Ram
7 Juvenile Endler Guppies
2 Harlequin Rasboras
1 Green GloTetra
1 Platy
3 Otos
2 Emerald Corys
1 Yo-Yo Loach
2 Serpae Tetras
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:11 AM   #5
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Like he said, the instructions will most likely tell you more. You could search up the product instructions on the internet as they can't always fit everything on the bottle.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:19 AM   #6
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i am still wondering why you are using a chemical to alter your PH...if it is already 6.0-6.5 you really don't need to change it with your stock...
using chemicals to alter water parameters can create large swings that could kill fish...
but if you "must" raise the PH find some crushed coral of crushed limestone and put it in a media bag and place that in your filter....it will gradually raise the PH and then maintain it..
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:33 AM   #7
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+1 to loha

You could also add a piece or two of holey rock to raise the pH naturally.

Mixing water does not work for me.

It may for you but it ends up with dead fish in the fish room when ever i try it
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:45 AM   #8
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I'll work on it


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8 Neon Tetras
1 Cherry Barb
2 Black Mollies
1 Balloon Red-Eyed Tetras
2 Bloodfin Tetras
3 Gold Barbs
2 Albino Corycats
3 Kulhi Loaches
2 Bushynose Plecos
1 Gibbicep Pleco
1 Raphael's Catfish
2 Swordtails
1 Neon Gourami
1 German Blue Ram
7 Juvenile Endler Guppies
2 Harlequin Rasboras
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:25 PM   #9
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It usually takes several tries to adjust pH with chemicals, and the results tend to not be stable.
I'm not sure why you want to raise it, though, with those fish. You're already in the sweet spot for them if you're in the sixes.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:22 PM   #10
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Well, it's working. My pH is now up to 6.8


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4 X-Ray Pristella Tetras
8 Neon Tetras
1 Cherry Barb
2 Black Mollies
1 Balloon Red-Eyed Tetras
2 Bloodfin Tetras
3 Gold Barbs
2 Albino Corycats
3 Kulhi Loaches
2 Bushynose Plecos
1 Gibbicep Pleco
1 Raphael's Catfish
2 Swordtails
1 Neon Gourami
1 German Blue Ram
7 Juvenile Endler Guppies
2 Harlequin Rasboras
1 Green GloTetra
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:27 AM   #11
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I have a young friend who set up a tank for her kids. Everything was doing well in the tank except for a few incompatible fish. I was over last week and the daughter says 'our tank is really dirty'. So I go look and the water is milky, the plants are covered in fuzz.
So what happened?? Mom decided that the ph was too low and added something to raise it. Tap water is 7.3
I asked her if she knew the ph of the tap water. No she didn`t so i asked how she knew it was too low then. She allowed I had a point and asked what she should do .
While I was there the hydro went off for about 6 hours. The milky stuff in the water all settled to the bottom and she was able to give it a good vaccuming to remove it. I advised her to do a couple more water changes over the next few days and to get the water tested for ammonia etc. She was lucky-- everything was normal.I sent her info on ph and fish needs.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:07 AM   #12
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see.....exactly what i always warn about.....:the more you mess around with your tanks ; the more problems you create for yourself......
leave them chemicals alone...

mousey.....show that girl what i am sayin...
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:57 PM   #13
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Well I don't mean to be cocky, but I proved you guys wrong. I used the chemicals, raised the pH, got some fish today and they're doing great!


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8 Neon Tetras
1 Cherry Barb
2 Black Mollies
1 Balloon Red-Eyed Tetras
2 Bloodfin Tetras
3 Gold Barbs
2 Albino Corycats
3 Kulhi Loaches
2 Bushynose Plecos
1 Gibbicep Pleco
1 Raphael's Catfish
2 Swordtails
1 Neon Gourami
1 German Blue Ram
7 Juvenile Endler Guppies
2 Harlequin Rasboras
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:25 PM   #14
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don't be getting too cocky....it ain't done yet...read what i said....,.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:39 PM   #15
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There are times to adjust pH with chems, but doing so commits you to testing and adjusting it just about forever, so IMO, it takes an extremely good reason to be worth the trouble and risk (it is fairly easy to kill a whole tank of fish and plants with additives)

If you don't know your current pH, dH, gH and target pH, dH, & gH, have a way to watch those numbers in the future, know how fast you change it safely,know the signs of distress and risks involved as well as understand how the 3 number relate and why you need to change any of them (the LFS said so is NOT a reason), then listen to Loha and DON"T DO IT.

If you do "mess" with pH, rock, substrates, driftwood and the like are safer than additives in the water (because they act more slowly). Of the additives, the Seachem "regulator" series are safer than the Seachem "buffer" series (I killed fish with acid buffer) and blackwater extracts or driftwood tea which are safer than pH up & down. Listen to Loha and DON"T MESS WITH THE TANK WITH FISH IN IT. If you must mess with water, do it in a designated container and add slowly to the tank over time after you've tested it.

If you have extremely hard water, just give up. Adding anything to bring down the hardness with bring down a precipitate and crust of minerals. Look into diluting the tap water instead.

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