frogs/fish

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by Characin Gal

Mermaid, I believe you are referring to a palaudarium, as pictured here. (I have always wanted to set one up )

I would recommend that you don't get any poisonous frogs (ie, Poison Dart Frogs, Firebelly toads) although they may not hurt your fish when they decide to go for a swim, there's always that chance that the poison can hurt a particular fish.
The tank would have to be medium to large size for you to be able to make a palaudarium, unless you are getting very small frogs and fish. Because, in order to make land and water in the same tank, it takes up more space.
Also, be sure that the 'land' in the tank is not made from mud/soil, because that could and probably would contaminate the water section. Plants can always be planted in small pots and hidden in substrate - that is if you want plants.

Be prepared that this may not be as easy as it seems.
Best of luck!

when i looked up palaudarium all i found was a bunch of web sites that were in another language... could that maybe be a non-english word?

[fishfreaks]

here are a few links for you http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_terrarium.php, http://www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/articles.html,

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by fishfreaks

here are a few links for you http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_terrarium.php, http://www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/articles.html,

thanks bunches!

[maxpayne_lhp]

In fact, because the water level is low and not many fish will be kept, filteration dosn't need to be that great.

Well, ok, thanks... I though the ammonia built up by the reptiles can be a problem. But ok..

[mermaid]

this is agitating, i cant find a picture that explains itself, and everything i read doesnt make any since to me... how would i keep the water and land seperate? or keep the land from falling into the water? how would i get a waterfall type thing going? so many questions, hehe. i just really would like to do this, i mean itll take me about 4 1/2 months to get money saved up to transfer my oscars (unless i get a loan from my dad or my boyfriend... maybe both ) so i have some time to plan. i guess ill just keep searching. does anyone know the actual name of this type of setup in english? since i dont htink the other one is english?

[fishfreaks]

to keep the water and land seperate you could make a hill out of the substrate, thats what we did. and we have a piece of driftwood going from one side to the next, if they wish to climb. But they usually dont.

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by fishfreaks

to keep the water and land seperate you could make a hill out of the substrate, thats what we did. and we have a piece of driftwood going from one side to the next, if they wish to climb. But they usually dont.

a hill.... like at a slant? (im a visual learner)

[fishfreaks]

yup, just like a slant

[mermaid]

ok... now any tips on how to get a waterfall-type think going... like where the water flows down some rocks back into the water

on one of the websites it has something about a submersible pump... but im not sure what it mean by that?

thanks everyone! im starting to get a picture of what i want to do

[Cichlid Man]

Originally Posted by maxpayne_lhp

Well, ok, thanks... I though the ammonia built up by the reptiles can be a problem. But ok..

I can see where you're coming from but reptiles don't exhale ammonia from their gills like fish do. LOL.

[Pareeeee]

aha but reptile poo is full of ammonia

[maxpayne_lhp]

I didn't mean that they exhale ammonia thru their gills

[Thunderkiss]

55 is too small, do a 90. otherwise you won't get any land/aquascaping. 180 would be even better.

[mermaid]

Originally Posted by Thunderkiss

55 is too small, do a 90. otherwise you won't get any land/aquascaping. 180 would be even better.

thats pretty big... are you sure my 55 wont work??? i mean i only want a few frogs and fish... not like a bunch! and if i could find an animal that you live both on land and in the water then i wouldnt worry about getting fish... but i dont think i wanna buy a bigger aquarium for this

[fishfreaks]

if your comfortable with the 55, go with the 55 as long as you decide on an animal that can fit into it you'll be fine.

[mermaid]

thank you! ummm... i just dunno what kinda animal would be cool... do frogs swim? or do they just stay on land... what kinda pet snake would swim? and would it stay small? i wouldnt mind a little snake that would swim

[fishfreaks]

i dont know about snakes, but i do know that some frogs swim. try this website http://repticzone.com/forums/index.html

[Cichlid Man]

Originally Posted by Characin Gal

aha but reptile poo is full of ammonia

Aha, but so is fishes poo!

[judya]

Correct spelling is paludarium

I always wanted one but have never got up the energy to set one up

You can use clear acrylic (or glass) placed upright in the tank to separate the land from water areas. You can use aquarium grade silicone sealant to fasten it to the bottom and tank sides.

The pump is an underwater pump - sometimes used in fountains. You put it at the bottom of the tank and attach clear plastic tubing that fits the outflow up to the top of the land area to make the waterfall. There are different sizes of pumps usually rated gallons per hour (GPH) or for certain heights of push, so get one that will be strong enough to do the job.

Here's a couple items from google ( I didn't read them so can't recommend)


http://badmanstropicalfish.com/palud...aludarium.html
http://members.tripod.com/~Tropic_Co...aludarium.html
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/pa...paludarium.htm

[mermaid]

thanks so much for the links... looks like ive got some reading to do