Tank options ?

bsmith · 07-24-2005, 11:45 AM

40gallon tank, biowheel 350pgh, geting some plants (not decided yet). i want to get:
4 Blue Rams
4 Cory Cats
2 Pleco
2 Angels
8-10 Neon Tetra

is this an alright amount for my tank size ?

bsmith · 07-24-2005, 01:27 PM

anyone have any help?

Lydia · 07-24-2005, 01:47 PM

what kind of plecos are you planning on getting?

(RC) · 07-24-2005, 01:51 PM

it should work good for everything, but the plecos if you plan on getting the ones that are normally available in pet stores. They get huge. I would get 6 corys and forget the plecos.

RC

bsmith · 07-24-2005, 01:51 PM

male and female BN- im getting them from a person
and they should get about 4" , so im going to keep them ! they are so cute

**Damon** · 07-24-2005, 03:41 PM

I don't hink the Angels and the Rams will go together. Same water conditions but both very territorial. If either tries to breed, you will find an extremely crowded tank.

judya · 07-24-2005, 06:08 PM

You could do it with the angels and rams if you have lots of plants, rocks, wood, etc, in the tank to make territories. The angels tend towards the higher areas and the rams toward the lower. Once any of them start breeding, just watch for aggression problems. If necessary, you could get a tank divider at that point to barricade some of them off. Or by then have another tank to put the breeders in.

Another possibility would be apistos rather than rams.

Watch for size problems with the angels and neons. Small neons make excellent angel food, as I found out to my dismay.

I'm assuming you're getting bristlenose? They may very well breed in the tank, and would need a cave or hollow log for that.

The lower area could be crowded once anyone starts breeding. If there are two pair of rams, they will want their own territories. They will chase the cories out but aren't big enough to hurt them. The bristlenose will want that area for breeding as well. Just make sure there are lots of caves, rock ledges, even rocks placed on edge to make low walls to help define territory.

I assume you have the right pH, and don't put the rams in until the tank is well-cycled and aged. They are very sensitive to poor water conditions.

bsmith · 07-24-2005, 06:39 PM

Hey, i wanted the angels because i wanted some larger fish for the top area of the tank, i can see now they might cause a problem, i am going to get the rams so another option for something colorful and a bit larger for a top dweller would be great if anyone knows any good mates.
also i am getting the BN and i think they are m/f, might be two male or two female.
i really want a pair of discus but im scared because eveyone says they are hard to keep alive !
i am going to have 3 large pieces of driftwood, coconut cave and some rockwork, as wel as live plants throughout.
thanks

judya · 07-24-2005, 07:10 PM

I'm partial to pearl gouramies myself. You could get a pair. They're pretty much a top fish, they get 4 inches long. There are also blue gouramies and gold ones. Couldn't have more than a couple though, as they are a bit aggressive. Just don't get the gouramies that get huge. I haven't had much luck with dwarf gouramies though.

Other possibilities are some of the larger tetras, the flame tetras, the black skirt, the bleeding heart, or other deep bodied tetras; or a nice zippy school of pearl danios or brilliant rasboras.

**Fishfirst** · 07-24-2005, 07:41 PM

dwarf gourmi's are fairly hardy as long as they are with the proper tankmates, and yes discuss is one of the hardest species of freshwater fish you can keep.

bsmith · 07-24-2005, 08:24 PM

i had gouramis and i dont much care for them, they can be very pretty, just not what i want in this tank.... any other larger top fish ?

euRasian32 · 07-25-2005, 10:58 AM

African Butterfly fish or hatchet fish, the hatchets mature at 2", and the silver hatchet at 3".

The butterflyfish is aggressive though, and shouldn't be kept with fish that can fit into its mouth. It matures at 3".

C

07-24-2005, 11:45 AM	#1
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	Tank options ? 40gallon tank, biowheel 350pgh, geting some plants (not decided yet). i want to get: 4 Blue Rams 4 Cory Cats 2 Pleco 2 Angels 8-10 Neon Tetra is this an alright amount for my tank size ? __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

07-24-2005, 01:27 PM	#2
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	anyone have any help? __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

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(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	it should work good for everything, but the plecos if you plan on getting the ones that are normally available in pet stores. They get huge. I would get 6 corys and forget the plecos. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

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07-24-2005, 03:41 PM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	I don't hink the Angels and the Rams will go together. Same water conditions but both very territorial. If either tries to breed, you will find an extremely crowded tank. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

07-24-2005, 06:08 PM	#7
judya Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 223	You could do it with the angels and rams if you have lots of plants, rocks, wood, etc, in the tank to make territories. The angels tend towards the higher areas and the rams toward the lower. Once any of them start breeding, just watch for aggression problems. If necessary, you could get a tank divider at that point to barricade some of them off. Or by then have another tank to put the breeders in. Another possibility would be apistos rather than rams. Watch for size problems with the angels and neons. Small neons make excellent angel food, as I found out to my dismay. I'm assuming you're getting bristlenose? They may very well breed in the tank, and would need a cave or hollow log for that. The lower area could be crowded once anyone starts breeding. If there are two pair of rams, they will want their own territories. They will chase the cories out but aren't big enough to hurt them. The bristlenose will want that area for breeding as well. Just make sure there are lots of caves, rock ledges, even rocks placed on edge to make low walls to help define territory. I assume you have the right pH, and don't put the rams in until the tank is well-cycled and aged. They are very sensitive to poor water conditions.

07-24-2005, 06:39 PM	#8
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	Hey, i wanted the angels because i wanted some larger fish for the top area of the tank, i can see now they might cause a problem, i am going to get the rams so another option for something colorful and a bit larger for a top dweller would be great if anyone knows any good mates. also i am getting the BN and i think they are m/f, might be two male or two female. i really want a pair of discus but im scared because eveyone says they are hard to keep alive ! i am going to have 3 large pieces of driftwood, coconut cave and some rockwork, as wel as live plants throughout. thanks __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000 Last edited by bsmith; 07-24-2005 at 06:47 PM.

07-24-2005, 07:10 PM	#9
judya Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 223	I'm partial to pearl gouramies myself. You could get a pair. They're pretty much a top fish, they get 4 inches long. There are also blue gouramies and gold ones. Couldn't have more than a couple though, as they are a bit aggressive. Just don't get the gouramies that get huge. I haven't had much luck with dwarf gouramies though. Other possibilities are some of the larger tetras, the flame tetras, the black skirt, the bleeding heart, or other deep bodied tetras; or a nice zippy school of pearl danios or brilliant rasboras. Last edited by judya; 07-24-2005 at 07:12 PM.

07-24-2005, 07:41 PM	#10
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	dwarf gourmi's are fairly hardy as long as they are with the proper tankmates, and yes discuss is one of the hardest species of freshwater fish you can keep. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

07-24-2005, 08:24 PM	#11
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	i had gouramis and i dont much care for them, they can be very pretty, just not what i want in this tank.... any other larger top fish ? __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

07-25-2005, 10:58 AM	#12
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	African Butterfly fish or hatchet fish, the hatchets mature at 2", and the silver hatchet at 3". The butterflyfish is aggressive though, and shouldn't be kept with fish that can fit into its mouth. It matures at 3". C __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

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