Blue Lobster

cucci67 · 08-06-2005, 10:55 AM

i saw a blue lobster at my LFS and really liked them. If i get one I will be keeping it with 2 Figure 8 puffers, a pleco, a spotted rapheal, a cory, tiger barbs, and a Black Ghost Knife. Will the puffers eat the lobster, or will the lobster eat any fish?

**Scuba Kid** · 08-06-2005, 11:17 AM

first thing, the figure eight puffers should be in brackish water.
and they will probably try to eat the lobster if it is small enough. also, i dont think the lobster will go well with cory cats.

cucci67 · 08-06-2005, 09:50 PM

My figure eights were in FW at my LFS, I have heard many things, whether they are FW or BW fish. The guy at the LFS said that the lobster was too big for the puffers to eat (just as I thought, the puffers=1", Lobster=3"). I bought the lobster already, and he and the cory go great so far, if I see anything funny I will place the cory in my 5g. The cory is almost 3" anyways.

Lexus · 08-06-2005, 10:55 PM

Why ask for advice if you are going to get it anyways?

**Fishfirst** · 08-07-2005, 12:31 AM

Figure 8's can live in freshwater........................... for a while. Sooner or later the fishes immune system will be suppressed though and its only a matter of time before they come down with something. As for the other fishes
The gost knife will reach a max size of 20" ----> NOT SUITABLE FOR A 29 GALLON!
The Pleco will get 18" if its the common pleco -------> Also not suitable
Although fine now, the lobster will become somewhat preditory. If it corners a fish, or surprises one during the night, bam, the fish is gone.
I know you don't want people to point out things wrong with your tank, but take it as constructive critisim... we are only trying to help you avoid the headaches of bad decisions and inappropriate stocking. Your 5 gallon is also overstocked, as tetras need a bit more swimming room than a gallon a piece. I'd look into guppies for that tank or dwarf platys. Put the serpaes in your new tank, take back the black ghost and the lobster and possibly the pleco.

cucci67 · 08-07-2005, 07:59 AM

The five gallon is only temporary until I pick up a new 10 gallon. I bought the pleco when he was abot 2" long, he is now like 3" (I always exchange plecos when they get about 4" long), and if the BGK becomes too bg I will also take it back. As for the lobster, I am thinking about putting him in a 2.5g or 5g of his own.

cucci67 · 08-07-2005, 08:01 AM

How many neons do you think I could place in a 10g? Not 10, maybe 6-8 right?

**Fishfirst** · 08-07-2005, 09:08 AM

You can put 8 neons in a 10 gallon, but what happened to the serpaes?

the figure 8's still need brackish water

Jonno · 08-07-2005, 10:02 AM

i would suggest u either take the puffers back or get a new tank and set it up brabrackish tank!

AshleytheGreat · 08-07-2005, 10:14 AM

I agree 100% w/ Jonno

cucci67 · 08-07-2005, 12:17 PM

I placed the serpaes in the 29g because I read they can be kept with Tiger Barbs, and that they are too fast for puffers to bother. If I took the puffers back to the LFS they would go right back into FW. If I were to set up a 10 gallon brackish tank, what will I need? Aquarium salt?

Lexus · 08-07-2005, 12:42 PM

No for a brackish tank you need salt that you use for a Saltwater tank, you then need a salinity scale also.

The lobster is needs a tank at least 29g not a 2.5 or 5g he needs room to move as he will grow to 8"

I wouldnt put the neons in a 10g, I have found them fragile and do better in larger tanks.

cucci67 · 08-07-2005, 01:00 PM

k i wont get the neons, my friend has a brackish tank, and he wants the puffers, I may give them to hiom for his 29 g.

Jonno · 08-07-2005, 05:27 PM

thats a gd idea, if you like puffers dwarf puffers are great and they only need a 10 gal tank or try some leaopard puffers!

- Jonno

**Scuba Kid** · 08-07-2005, 05:58 PM

puffers shouldnt even be in a community tank. most puffers, including dwarf puffers, are very aggressive fin nippers and will harass the other tank mates.

cucci67 · 08-07-2005, 07:28 PM

If I were to make a 10g dwarf puffer tank, what would be the best way to go about doing it. What will they eat, I hear they only eat live foods, will I be able to feed them flake or freeze dried foods? Also, where is a good cheap place to buy dwarf puffers.

fishfreaks · 08-07-2005, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishfirst

Figure 8's can live in freshwater........................... for a while. Sooner or later the fishes immune system will be suppressed though and its only a matter of time before they come down with something. As for the other fishes
The gost knife will reach a max size of 20" ----> NOT SUITABLE FOR A 29 GALLON!
The Pleco will get 18" if its the common pleco -------> Also not suitable
Although fine now, the lobster will become somewhat preditory. If it corners a fish, or surprises one during the night, bam, the fish is gone.
I know you don't want people to point out things wrong with your tank, but take it as constructive critisim... we are only trying to help you avoid the headaches of bad decisions and inappropriate stocking. Your 5 gallon is also overstocked, as tetras need a bit more swimming room than a gallon a piece. I'd look into guppies for that tank or dwarf platys. Put the serpaes in your new tank, take back the black ghost and the lobster and possibly the pleco.

I agree 100% with fish first. also i had a crayfish eat a big cory cat once.

**Fishfirst** · 08-08-2005, 12:13 AM

Petsmarts puffers eat frozen foods, but they also like snails as a great snack

cucci67 · 08-08-2005, 07:44 AM

OK, Here is what I think I will do:

Puffer: I traded one in to the LFS. I will setup a 10g brackish tank just for the other puffer. Is there anything else that can go with it? I really like bumble bee gobies.

Tiger Barbs: I will bring them back to the LFS. (A profit, cause when I bought them they only charged me for 1

)

Lobster: I will leave it in my 29g for now, maybe give it to my brother for his empty 25g

I will keep the serpaes in my 29g, if I get rid of the lobster, I may get a few ottos, but will the cory eat them? Also, I would like a schooll of neons in my 29g (8-12)

Lexus · 08-08-2005, 01:37 PM

Why didnt you just trade both puffers?

08-06-2005, 10:55 AM	#1
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	Blue Lobster i saw a blue lobster at my LFS and really liked them. If i get one I will be keeping it with 2 Figure 8 puffers, a pleco, a spotted rapheal, a cory, tiger barbs, and a Black Ghost Knife. Will the puffers eat the lobster, or will the lobster eat any fish?

08-06-2005, 11:17 AM	#2
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 3,903 User Feedback: (1)	first thing, the figure eight puffers should be in brackish water. and they will probably try to eat the lobster if it is small enough. also, i dont think the lobster will go well with cory cats. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

08-06-2005, 10:55 PM	#4
Lexus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 2,399 User Feedback: (0)	Why ask for advice if you are going to get it anyways? __________________ 55 Gallon 8 Daffodil Cichlids 2 Angels 9 Corys 1 Albino BN Pleco 1 Goldfish 47 Gallon 2 Angels 4 Black Skirt Tetras 8 Tiger Barbs 11 Zebra Danios 29 Gallon 2 Parrots 10 Gallon 1 Betta 5 ADFs

08-07-2005, 12:31 AM	#5
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	Figure 8's can live in freshwater........................... for a while. Sooner or later the fishes immune system will be suppressed though and its only a matter of time before they come down with something. As for the other fishes The gost knife will reach a max size of 20" ----> NOT SUITABLE FOR A 29 GALLON! The Pleco will get 18" if its the common pleco -------> Also not suitable Although fine now, the lobster will become somewhat preditory. If it corners a fish, or surprises one during the night, bam, the fish is gone. I know you don't want people to point out things wrong with your tank, but take it as constructive critisim... we are only trying to help you avoid the headaches of bad decisions and inappropriate stocking. Your 5 gallon is also overstocked, as tetras need a bit more swimming room than a gallon a piece. I'd look into guppies for that tank or dwarf platys. Put the serpaes in your new tank, take back the black ghost and the lobster and possibly the pleco. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-07-2005, 09:08 AM	#8
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	You can put 8 neons in a 10 gallon, but what happened to the serpaes? the figure 8's still need brackish water __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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08-06-2005, 09:50 PM	#3
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	My figure eights were in FW at my LFS, I have heard many things, whether they are FW or BW fish. The guy at the LFS said that the lobster was too big for the puffers to eat (just as I thought, the puffers=1", Lobster=3"). I bought the lobster already, and he and the cory go great so far, if I see anything funny I will place the cory in my 5g. The cory is almost 3" anyways.

08-07-2005, 07:59 AM	#6
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	The five gallon is only temporary until I pick up a new 10 gallon. I bought the pleco when he was abot 2" long, he is now like 3" (I always exchange plecos when they get about 4" long), and if the BGK becomes too bg I will also take it back. As for the lobster, I am thinking about putting him in a 2.5g or 5g of his own.

08-07-2005, 08:01 AM	#7
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	How many neons do you think I could place in a 10g? Not 10, maybe 6-8 right?

08-07-2005, 10:02 AM	#9
Jonno Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Devon, UK Age: 20 Posts: 512 User Feedback: (0)	i would suggest u either take the puffers back or get a new tank and set it up brabrackish tank!

08-07-2005, 10:14 AM	#10
AshleytheGreat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mi Town Posts: 785 User Feedback: (0)	I agree 100% w/ Jonno __________________ So let the haters hate, let the doubters doubt, I stand by my book, and my life, and I won't dignify this malarkey with any sort of further response.

08-07-2005, 12:17 PM	#11
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	I placed the serpaes in the 29g because I read they can be kept with Tiger Barbs, and that they are too fast for puffers to bother. If I took the puffers back to the LFS they would go right back into FW. If I were to set up a 10 gallon brackish tank, what will I need? Aquarium salt?

08-07-2005, 12:42 PM	#12
Lexus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 2,399 User Feedback: (0)	No for a brackish tank you need salt that you use for a Saltwater tank, you then need a salinity scale also. The lobster is needs a tank at least 29g not a 2.5 or 5g he needs room to move as he will grow to 8" I wouldnt put the neons in a 10g, I have found them fragile and do better in larger tanks. __________________ 55 Gallon 8 Daffodil Cichlids 2 Angels 9 Corys 1 Albino BN Pleco 1 Goldfish 47 Gallon 2 Angels 4 Black Skirt Tetras 8 Tiger Barbs 11 Zebra Danios 29 Gallon 2 Parrots 10 Gallon 1 Betta 5 ADFs

08-07-2005, 01:00 PM	#13
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	k i wont get the neons, my friend has a brackish tank, and he wants the puffers, I may give them to hiom for his 29 g.

08-07-2005, 05:27 PM	#14
Jonno Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Devon, UK Age: 20 Posts: 512 User Feedback: (0)	thats a gd idea, if you like puffers dwarf puffers are great and they only need a 10 gal tank or try some leaopard puffers! - Jonno

08-07-2005, 05:58 PM	#15
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 3,903 User Feedback: (1)	puffers shouldnt even be in a community tank. most puffers, including dwarf puffers, are very aggressive fin nippers and will harass the other tank mates. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

08-07-2005, 07:28 PM	#16
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	If I were to make a 10g dwarf puffer tank, what would be the best way to go about doing it. What will they eat, I hear they only eat live foods, will I be able to feed them flake or freeze dried foods? Also, where is a good cheap place to buy dwarf puffers.

08-08-2005, 12:13 AM	#18
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	Petsmarts puffers eat frozen foods, but they also like snails as a great snack __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-08-2005, 07:44 AM	#19
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 User Feedback: (0)	OK, Here is what I think I will do: Puffer: I traded one in to the LFS. I will setup a 10g brackish tank just for the other puffer. Is there anything else that can go with it? I really like bumble bee gobies. Tiger Barbs: I will bring them back to the LFS. (A profit, cause when I bought them they only charged me for 1 ) Lobster: I will leave it in my 29g for now, maybe give it to my brother for his empty 25g I will keep the serpaes in my 29g, if I get rid of the lobster, I may get a few ottos, but will the cory eat them? Also, I would like a schooll of neons in my 29g (8-12) Last edited by cucci67; 08-08-2005 at 07:47 AM.

08-08-2005, 01:37 PM	#20
Lexus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 2,399 User Feedback: (0)	Why didnt you just trade both puffers? __________________ 55 Gallon 8 Daffodil Cichlids 2 Angels 9 Corys 1 Albino BN Pleco 1 Goldfish 47 Gallon 2 Angels 4 Black Skirt Tetras 8 Tiger Barbs 11 Zebra Danios 29 Gallon 2 Parrots 10 Gallon 1 Betta 5 ADFs

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