Stocking question

[Sylvia27]

Hi:

I have one 15 gallon tank and a new 20 gallon tank.

In my 15 gallon tank, I have 2 fantail goldfish, one corycat, one frog and one black mystery snail.

I learned that goldfish need 15 gallon + 10 gallon per additional goldfish. Is that correct? Usually, you see goldfish in much smaller tanks and bowls.

I'm not sure how I'm going to reorganize my fish now that I have a new tank, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I would like to set up my second tank (20 gallon for tropical freshwater fish.
I would like to have
2 kissing gouramis.
8 neons
8 tiger barbs
2 cory cats
2 shrimps
1 frog
maybe a bristlenose plec.
Is this all compatible?

In my 15 gallon, I would have
2 fantail goldfish
1 snail

Could I add a black moore and a lionhead or would that be overstocking?
According to the info I read so far, I couldn't add anything....

Thanks!

Sylvia

[Damon]

Goldfish need 20-30 gallons per fish. (Some species get larger than others).
As for your stocking of the 20 gallon, it will not work. I'll break down your fish here...........
2 Gouramis: This will work

8 Neon tetras: This will also work with the gouramis

8 Tiger barbs: This is a no-no. Tiger barbs need a 30 gallon tank or larger due to the need for swimmin room. They may also nip at the gouramis.

2 Cory cats: Can work but you need to add 3 more

2 Shrimp: What kind? Although most will work.

1 Frog: Probably not a good idea. Too much waste and not suitable for these fish in a tank this size.

1 Bristlenose Pleco: Why? Though it could work, these stocking levels will require good filtration, and regular waterchanges. Neons are hardy fish.

[Chazwick]

I agree with Simpte (beat me to it)...
Goldfish need a hell of alot of room, i suggest advertising to sell them, putting them in a pond.. or giving them back to your LFS, that way you'll have another tank to do what you please with
I know it may be hard giving them up, but keeping them in a 15... even a 20gal will stunt their growth, allowing their organs to outgrow there body and they will die painful deaths, give them up before they die, please.
Your tank may be a little overstocked if you add all that.. maybe you could use the 15gal for a snail/frog/shrimp tank? And the other for fish? That'd be cool!
I suggest giving away the goldfish pronto.

[Chazwick]

.. Or get a much bigger tank, i should add! lol for the goldfish