Are my fish getting stuck to the filter?!?!

CVV1 · 07-05-2007, 02:12 PM

2 of my guppies have been found dead on the filter, one was being eaten by a snail. My water tempurature is around 82 (I THINK tthis is too hot, but IDK) and the water is crystal clear. I left for a day to go to a friends and come back, dead fish. both were very active and ate. No signs of any disease in other fish (put in ICH medication just for caution), Thanks for the help.

Zoe · 07-05-2007, 02:21 PM

82 is warm, but it's not "too hot". If you can bring it down to 78F, that would be better, but 82F is not going to kill your fish.
I expect that they died before they got stuck to the filter intake. Healthy fish don't usually get stuck to filter intakes, unless the fish are young or the filter is WAY too high powered for them. The filter intake just happens to be where they end up when they die and float around for a while.
What are you water params.. ie ammonia, nitrites, nitrates? How often do you do water changes?

Danh · 07-05-2007, 07:16 PM

You shouldn't treat for caution with any kind of chemicals... especially for ich. I never treat ich with chemicals even if I do get it. I would say the treatment could easily be what killed them.

CVV1 · 07-05-2007, 09:46 PM

I put it in after the fish died, all were active the day before. If the fish died s sudden wouldnt the others?

emc7 · 07-06-2007, 12:57 AM

One dead fish is "just one of those things" they do get heart attacks and bump themselves on the lid, etc. 2 dead fish is a trend. If you tank is less than 3 months old (or you have added more fish within that time) poor water quality is more likely than disease. Just when your ammonia is going away, suddenly nitrites can spike overnight and kill fish, then the dead fish causes more ammonia. Ammonia and nitrite both affect the gills and the fish have trouble breathing. Warmer water has less dissolved oxygen and medication reduces it further. Therefore, unless you have at least a general idea what disease is present, change water rather than medicate. Don't even think about adding more fish until 2 months have passed with no more deaths.

CVV1 · 07-06-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by emc7

One dead fish is "just one of those things" they do get heart attacks and bump themselves on the lid, etc. 2 dead fish is a trend. If you tank is less than 3 months old (or you have added more fish within that time) poor water quality is more likely than disease. Just when your ammonia is going away, suddenly nitrites can spike overnight and kill fish, then the dead fish causes more ammonia. Ammonia and nitrite both affect the gills and the fish have trouble breathing. Warmer water has less dissolved oxygen and medication reduces it further. Therefore, unless you have at least a general idea what disease is present, change water rather than medicate. Don't even think about adding more fish until 2 months have passed with no more deaths.

All right I will do that. My fish right now are all active and eat.

CVV1 · 07-09-2007, 08:57 PM

No more fish have died

Apotheosis · 07-09-2007, 10:14 PM

What filter are you using?

CVV1 · 07-09-2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apotheosis

What filter are you using?

30 gallon tetra whisper filter. You dont need to tell me

lol

Apotheosis · 07-09-2007, 10:55 PM

As long as it works I suppose...

Just making sure you weren't using a very high powered filter. lol

CVV1 · 07-13-2007, 12:38 PM

I found another one dead...tail fin was missing. I think they are being attacked

emc7 · 07-13-2007, 12:54 PM

To be sure its an attack, you need to find one alive with the tail missing. I think everything in your tank will nibble on something dead.

CVV1 · 07-13-2007, 01:07 PM

okay...ill check out my other fish.

CVV1 · 07-13-2007, 01:10 PM

One of the guppies tails is ripped....Im gunna have to get different fish with smaller fins

07-05-2007, 02:12 PM	#1
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	Are my fish getting stuck to the filter?!?! 2 of my guppies have been found dead on the filter, one was being eaten by a snail. My water tempurature is around 82 (I THINK tthis is too hot, but IDK) and the water is crystal clear. I left for a day to go to a friends and come back, dead fish. both were very active and ate. No signs of any disease in other fish (put in ICH medication just for caution), Thanks for the help. __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

07-05-2007, 02:21 PM	#2
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	82 is warm, but it's not "too hot". If you can bring it down to 78F, that would be better, but 82F is not going to kill your fish. I expect that they died before they got stuck to the filter intake. Healthy fish don't usually get stuck to filter intakes, unless the fish are young or the filter is WAY too high powered for them. The filter intake just happens to be where they end up when they die and float around for a while. What are you water params.. ie ammonia, nitrites, nitrates? How often do you do water changes? __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

07-05-2007, 07:16 PM	#3
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07-05-2007, 09:46 PM	#4
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	I put it in after the fish died, all were active the day before. If the fish died s sudden wouldnt the others? __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

07-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#7
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	No more fish have died __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

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07-06-2007, 12:57 AM	#5
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,902	One dead fish is "just one of those things" they do get heart attacks and bump themselves on the lid, etc. 2 dead fish is a trend. If you tank is less than 3 months old (or you have added more fish within that time) poor water quality is more likely than disease. Just when your ammonia is going away, suddenly nitrites can spike overnight and kill fish, then the dead fish causes more ammonia. Ammonia and nitrite both affect the gills and the fish have trouble breathing. Warmer water has less dissolved oxygen and medication reduces it further. Therefore, unless you have at least a general idea what disease is present, change water rather than medicate. Don't even think about adding more fish until 2 months have passed with no more deaths.

07-09-2007, 10:14 PM	#8
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	What filter are you using?

07-09-2007, 10:55 PM	#10
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	As long as it works I suppose... Just making sure you weren't using a very high powered filter. lol

07-13-2007, 12:38 PM	#11
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	I found another one dead...tail fin was missing. I think they are being attacked __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

07-13-2007, 12:54 PM	#12
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,902	To be sure its an attack, you need to find one alive with the tail missing. I think everything in your tank will nibble on something dead.

07-13-2007, 01:07 PM	#13
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	okay...ill check out my other fish. __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

07-13-2007, 01:10 PM	#14
CVV1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 254	One of the guppies tails is ripped....Im gunna have to get different fish with smaller fins __________________ 20 gallon tank 3 Platy 7 Platy Fry 2 Head and Back Light Tetras 2 Fancy Guppies 4 Neon Tetras

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