What'ya think of the setup...any problems?

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 10:37 AM

K, so I have a 30 gallon tank...in about 6 months or so my sister is moving out of state and I'm "adopting" her 175 gallon tank (yes SUPERSOEXCITED). So anyways, my 30 right now, I have 3 medium clown loaches (possibly the happiest, funniest fish I've ever seen), they're roughly 2.5-3" long each. I have 1 blue gourami, and 3 tertra's, and 1 little tiny baby algae eater. I'm think of adding two small angel fish, 1 more blue gourami, and 5 more tetras. Eventually the loaches and the angels are going to go in my super tank...anyone see any problems in the meantime? This is what I'm want to have after my next trip to the fish store:

3 Clown Loaches
2 Angel Fish
8 Tetras
2 Blue Gourami's
1 Algae Eater

Lemme know guys, and happy "fishing"

fishboy · 11-13-2005, 10:50 AM

the clown loachs grow slow but will reach around a foot each a need to be kept in groups of 6 or more. Gouramis are similar to bettas because the males will fight sometimes to the death. Your tetras will be very happy in a large group. If you have neon tetras though be sure to not upgrade them to the super tank with the angels because when angel's grow large in their natural habitat(the amazon) they enjoy eating their favorite prey, neon tetras. The algea eater will be fine. Good luck with the 175, if it were me I'd get a large oddball...*cough*african lungfish*cough*

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 11:09 AM

So I'm almost positve my gourami right now is a male, are you saying I should get a female so they don't fight? I know the loaches get big, that's why they're going in the super tank eventually, along with the angels, and the tetras won't leave, they love their 30 gallon, and they're not neon, I'm not sure what they are, they reddish, and have very fluffy fins, but they're not neons.

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 11:41 AM

Is this a male or a female?

**Scuba Kid** · 11-13-2005, 11:55 AM

looks like a male to me. but im not 100% positive.

**Damon** · 11-13-2005, 12:17 PM

I was leaning towards a female (males usually have more pointed fins) but no way to tell from the pic. When you say algae eater, what kind? There are 100's of species all growing to different sizes and needing different diets and water conditions. The term "algae eater" is one of the worst in the hobby.

**Scuba Kid** · 11-13-2005, 12:44 PM

i thought i did notice that it had a pointed fin. oh well, w/e

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 12:58 PM

I was leaning much more towards male, the top fin is VERY pointed, I don't see why you couldn't tell from this pic, all the fins are displayed clearly, as is the girth of the body, and the general shape of the fish...

Lydia · 11-13-2005, 02:32 PM

Male as far as I can tell. Females fins are shorter and more rounded than that, IME.

DUSTIN323 · 11-13-2005, 02:34 PM

Yeah it's a male. And you probally mean plecostumas by algae eater, right?

**Scuba Kid** · 11-13-2005, 02:36 PM

see? i knew i saw a male...

fishboy · 11-13-2005, 03:39 PM

yup it's a male and i very much doubt she meant pleco by algea eater, maybe a chinese algea eater would be a better guess

cucci67 · 11-13-2005, 06:07 PM

I was going to say possibly an oto. She did say it was really small, and it is an algae eater. Does it look like this...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...m/img/oto1.jpg

DUSTIN323 · 11-13-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishboy

yup it's a male and i very much doubt she meant pleco by algea eater, maybe a chinese algea eater would be a better guess

Well I was just guessing because most people down here would mean an algae eater as a pleco before an oto or somethin.

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 10:40 PM

To be honest...I have no idea what kind of algea eaters they are. I've got to get one out. My roomate has a HUUUGE tank...like 8 feet long, and he set it up, and left it alone for like two months, so it grew a slew of disgusting algae. He went to the fish store, and they told him to get four of these "algae eaters" and literally, overnight they CLEANED the tank spotless. I had a little algae problem for a bit, so I grabbed two of 'em to clean my tank. They are machines!!! When I bought the tank (used off some lady) she had two rocks in it. I just assumed they were green. NO, that was algae...because they have slowly been becoming more and more orange. Anyways, yeah I don't know what they are. They're tiny, like 1/4 inch. Super skinny, cylinder shape with really tranclucent fins. kind of whitist, little orangy color to 'em? I dunno. Two is too many though. If 4 cleaned out a 8 foot tank, one will do fine in a 30

Fishy Lee · 11-13-2005, 10:44 PM

oh and randomly...I'm a he not a she

DUSTIN323 · 11-14-2005, 10:13 AM

Well probally an oto, chinese algae eater, or a gold algae eater. I think two would be fine in a 30g

**Fishfirst** · 11-14-2005, 12:45 PM

oto's yes, chinese algea eaters no... mainly because they aren't suitable for most tanks as they get quite aggressive as they grow up.

11-13-2005, 10:37 AM	#1
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	What'ya think of the setup...any problems? K, so I have a 30 gallon tank...in about 6 months or so my sister is moving out of state and I'm "adopting" her 175 gallon tank (yes SUPERSOEXCITED). So anyways, my 30 right now, I have 3 medium clown loaches (possibly the happiest, funniest fish I've ever seen), they're roughly 2.5-3" long each. I have 1 blue gourami, and 3 tertra's, and 1 little tiny baby algae eater. I'm think of adding two small angel fish, 1 more blue gourami, and 5 more tetras. Eventually the loaches and the angels are going to go in my super tank...anyone see any problems in the meantime? This is what I'm want to have after my next trip to the fish store: 3 Clown Loaches 2 Angel Fish 8 Tetras 2 Blue Gourami's 1 Algae Eater Lemme know guys, and happy "fishing" Last edited by Fishy Lee; 11-13-2005 at 12:12 PM.

11-13-2005, 10:50 AM	#2
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 1,656	the clown loachs grow slow but will reach around a foot each a need to be kept in groups of 6 or more. Gouramis are similar to bettas because the males will fight sometimes to the death. Your tetras will be very happy in a large group. If you have neon tetras though be sure to not upgrade them to the super tank with the angels because when angel's grow large in their natural habitat(the amazon) they enjoy eating their favorite prey, neon tetras. The algea eater will be fine. Good luck with the 175, if it were me I'd get a large oddball...coughafrican lungfishcough __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

11-13-2005, 11:41 AM	#4
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	Is this a male or a female? Last edited by Fishy Lee; 11-13-2005 at 11:47 AM. Reason: html code messup

11-13-2005, 11:55 AM	#5
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,170	looks like a male to me. but im not 100% positive. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

11-13-2005, 12:17 PM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	I was leaning towards a female (males usually have more pointed fins) but no way to tell from the pic. When you say algae eater, what kind? There are 100's of species all growing to different sizes and needing different diets and water conditions. The term "algae eater" is one of the worst in the hobby. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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11-13-2005, 11:09 AM	#3
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	So I'm almost positve my gourami right now is a male, are you saying I should get a female so they don't fight? I know the loaches get big, that's why they're going in the super tank eventually, along with the angels, and the tetras won't leave, they love their 30 gallon, and they're not neon, I'm not sure what they are, they reddish, and have very fluffy fins, but they're not neons.

11-13-2005, 12:44 PM	#7
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,170	i thought i did notice that it had a pointed fin. oh well, w/e __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

11-13-2005, 12:58 PM	#8
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	I was leaning much more towards male, the top fin is VERY pointed, I don't see why you couldn't tell from this pic, all the fins are displayed clearly, as is the girth of the body, and the general shape of the fish...

11-13-2005, 02:32 PM	#9
Lydia Ichthus Owner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,907	Male as far as I can tell. Females fins are shorter and more rounded than that, IME.

11-13-2005, 02:34 PM	#10
DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	Yeah it's a male. And you probally mean plecostumas by algae eater, right? __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum

11-13-2005, 02:36 PM	#11
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,170	see? i knew i saw a male... __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

11-13-2005, 03:39 PM	#12
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 1,656	yup it's a male and i very much doubt she meant pleco by algea eater, maybe a chinese algea eater would be a better guess __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

11-13-2005, 06:07 PM	#13
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481	I was going to say possibly an oto. She did say it was really small, and it is an algae eater. Does it look like this... http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...m/img/oto1.jpg

11-13-2005, 10:40 PM	#15
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	To be honest...I have no idea what kind of algea eaters they are. I've got to get one out. My roomate has a HUUUGE tank...like 8 feet long, and he set it up, and left it alone for like two months, so it grew a slew of disgusting algae. He went to the fish store, and they told him to get four of these "algae eaters" and literally, overnight they CLEANED the tank spotless. I had a little algae problem for a bit, so I grabbed two of 'em to clean my tank. They are machines!!! When I bought the tank (used off some lady) she had two rocks in it. I just assumed they were green. NO, that was algae...because they have slowly been becoming more and more orange. Anyways, yeah I don't know what they are. They're tiny, like 1/4 inch. Super skinny, cylinder shape with really tranclucent fins. kind of whitist, little orangy color to 'em? I dunno. Two is too many though. If 4 cleaned out a 8 foot tank, one will do fine in a 30

11-13-2005, 10:44 PM	#16
Fishy Lee Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 86	oh and randomly...I'm a he not a she

11-14-2005, 10:13 AM	#17
DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	Well probally an oto, chinese algae eater, or a gold algae eater. I think two would be fine in a 30g __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum

11-14-2005, 12:45 PM	#18
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	oto's yes, chinese algea eaters no... mainly because they aren't suitable for most tanks as they get quite aggressive as they grow up. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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