Fish to live with mollies and swordtails..

Phillies804 · 11-30-2005, 05:10 PM

I am looking for colorfull fish that can co-exist peacefully with my swordtails and mollies...perferably something that starts out small and gets bigger..but not to big for a 55g. I have two mollies, but want another female, and I am going to have about 6 swordtails.

Thanks Again All!!

Henry

DUSTIN323 · 11-30-2005, 05:22 PM

Thinking of the top of my head: angelfish, all livebearers, gouramis, killifish, hatchets, tetras, danio, loaches, plecostumas, cory cats, and other fish that are peacful and won't eat them

Phillies804 · 11-30-2005, 05:38 PM

I checked out http://timstropicals.com/Compatibili...litySearch.asp and they said neon tetras weren't compatible with mollies or swordtails. Is this true?

Henry

DUSTIN323 · 11-30-2005, 07:02 PM

I think they would be fine.

awesome kid · 11-30-2005, 07:47 PM

just be careful if you put gouramis in, i have found them to be fairly territorial with their own, and related, species

DUSTIN323 · 11-30-2005, 07:52 PM

Yeah you shouldn't put multiple male gouramis together unless their are multiple females. Both dwarf and other are easy to sex though.

awesome kid · 11-30-2005, 07:53 PM

i would go with 5 or 6 hatchets a BN pleco and a small school of cory cats, but that is just my personal opinion.

Phillies804 · 11-30-2005, 08:09 PM

This is the tenative plan so far: (All input is appriciated)

(3) Three Spot Gourami
(12) Neon Tetras
(3) Mollies
(6) Swordtails

Could I add more?? Do you not recommend any of these fish?

goodie · 11-30-2005, 08:34 PM

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neon tetras weren't compatible with mollies or swordtails. Is this true?

Technically, yes. neons, angles,ect... are softer water fish. Mollies and swords are hard water fish. You can do it if they are acclimated to your water. Don't put angles with neons though. The neons will get eaten eventually.

osteoporoosi · 12-01-2005, 07:04 AM

I would stick with fish that prefer hard and acidid water as swords and mollies do. Black widow tetras, bushynose plecos don't mind it, platys and guppys would do fine too. Amano shrimps and apple snails would work also.

Gouramis are strictly softer water fish, so i would think about putting them in very carefully.

goodie · 12-01-2005, 09:10 AM

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hard and acidid water as swords and mollies do

I think you meant hard and alkaline

.

DUSTIN323 · 12-01-2005, 10:39 AM

Yeah true angels can eat neons and right the mollies and swords are going to prefer slightly harder and alkaline water compared to the angels and neons though they could be kept together like that it's not optimum

Lydia · 12-01-2005, 10:44 AM

What about some kind of rainbowfish? Bosemani, threadfin, or neon dwarfs?

osteoporoosi · 12-01-2005, 11:51 AM

doh.. Thanks goodie, hard and alkaline ofcourse

DUSTIN323 · 12-01-2005, 12:09 PM

I agree with ya'll like I said earlier but I don't think we should compare them as wanting hard and alkaline because that could confuse someone who doesn't know much about this topic because that makes it sound like mollies and swords has the water needs of African cichlids. I think we should say medium hardness and neutral ph when talking about these types of fish and other Central American fish so newcomers don't get thrown off

ron v · 12-01-2005, 12:49 PM

Actually Dustin, the PH requirements for Central America and Lake Malawi fish are very similar.

DUSTIN323 · 12-01-2005, 03:06 PM

Ok Ron now I'm not gonna try to argue this with you but they're not similar. Just go read on liveaquria or fishprofiles and see that they're not that similar. The Rift Lakes(Malwai, Tanganyika, Victoria) are like no other waters on this Earth I get my info from a book I just read on them. Now I know that alot of central American fish could live in the same water as alot of African cichlids or vice-versa or inbetween, but wouldn't this be contradicting what you said on other threads about "as a responsible hobbyist the fishes water should be very close to how it is in nature where they come from" because you were saying a Jack Dempsey couldn't go with an Oscar because of their water parameters, now come on if you think that(which not saying your wrong for that and not saying your wrong) wouldn't it be way more drastic having Central American fish with African cichlids. So basically what I'm saying is their water needs in nature are not similar. Now if your saying that some species can live with some(which some could) wouldn't this be contradicting what you said on another. So come on you can't tell me I'm wrong on this.

DUSTIN323 · 12-01-2005, 03:34 PM

OPPPPPPS

goodie · 12-01-2005, 05:50 PM

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Bosemani

Sure
http://www.timstropicals.com/Invento...semaniInfo.asp

ron v · 12-02-2005, 06:26 AM

Dustin, I'm going to start another thread to respond. I don't want to hijack Phillies thread.

11-30-2005, 05:10 PM	#1
Phillies804 Fishy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 22 Posts: 25	Fish to live with mollies and swordtails.. I am looking for colorfull fish that can co-exist peacefully with my swordtails and mollies...perferably something that starts out small and gets bigger..but not to big for a 55g. I have two mollies, but want another female, and I am going to have about 6 swordtails. Thanks Again All!! Henry

11-30-2005, 05:22 PM	#2
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11-30-2005, 05:38 PM	#3
Phillies804 Fishy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 22 Posts: 25	I checked out http://timstropicals.com/Compatibili...litySearch.asp and they said neon tetras weren't compatible with mollies or swordtails. Is this true? Henry

11-30-2005, 07:53 PM	#7
awesome kid Huh? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I'm right behind you, hahahahaha Posts: 268	i would go with 5 or 6 hatchets a BN pleco and a small school of cory cats, but that is just my personal opinion. __________________ Here are my virtual pets! 55 mbuna 29 community clueless cat even more clueless dog

11-30-2005, 08:09 PM	#8
Phillies804 Fishy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 22 Posts: 25	This is the tenative plan so far: (All input is appriciated) (3) Three Spot Gourami (12) Neon Tetras (3) Mollies (6) Swordtails Could I add more?? Do you not recommend any of these fish?

12-01-2005, 07:04 AM	#10
osteoporoosi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 633	I would stick with fish that prefer hard and acidid water as swords and mollies do. Black widow tetras, bushynose plecos don't mind it, platys and guppys would do fine too. Amano shrimps and apple snails would work also. Gouramis are strictly softer water fish, so i would think about putting them in very carefully. __________________ http://photobucket.com/albums/v640/osteoporoosi/

12-01-2005, 10:39 AM	#12
DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	Yeah true angels can eat neons and right the mollies and swords are going to prefer slightly harder and alkaline water compared to the angels and neons though they could be kept together like that it's not optimum __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum

12-01-2005, 10:44 AM	#13
Lydia Ichthus Owner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,907	What about some kind of rainbowfish? Bosemani, threadfin, or neon dwarfs?

12-01-2005, 11:51 AM	#14
osteoporoosi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 633	doh.. Thanks goodie, hard and alkaline ofcourse __________________ http://photobucket.com/albums/v640/osteoporoosi/

12-01-2005, 12:09 PM	#15
DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	I agree with ya'll like I said earlier but I don't think we should compare them as wanting hard and alkaline because that could confuse someone who doesn't know much about this topic because that makes it sound like mollies and swords has the water needs of African cichlids. I think we should say medium hardness and neutral ph when talking about these types of fish and other Central American fish so newcomers don't get thrown off __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum

12-01-2005, 12:49 PM	#16
ron v Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 61 Posts: 1,123	Actually Dustin, the PH requirements for Central America and Lake Malawi fish are very similar.

12-01-2005, 03:06 PM	#17
DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	Ok Ron now I'm not gonna try to argue this with you but they're not similar. Just go read on liveaquria or fishprofiles and see that they're not that similar. The Rift Lakes(Malwai, Tanganyika, Victoria) are like no other waters on this Earth I get my info from a book I just read on them. Now I know that alot of central American fish could live in the same water as alot of African cichlids or vice-versa or inbetween, but wouldn't this be contradicting what you said on other threads about "as a responsible hobbyist the fishes water should be very close to how it is in nature where they come from" because you were saying a Jack Dempsey couldn't go with an Oscar because of their water parameters, now come on if you think that(which not saying your wrong for that and not saying your wrong) wouldn't it be way more drastic having Central American fish with African cichlids. So basically what I'm saying is their water needs in nature are not similar. Now if your saying that some species can live with some(which some could) wouldn't this be contradicting what you said on another. So come on you can't tell me I'm wrong on this. __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum Last edited by DUSTIN323; 12-01-2005 at 08:31 PM.

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DUSTIN323 ~/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\~ Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 522	OPPPPPPS __________________ Gen1Performance.com Gen 1 Performance Forum Last edited by DUSTIN323; 12-01-2005 at 08:29 PM.

12-02-2005, 06:26 AM	#20
ron v Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 61 Posts: 1,123	Dustin, I'm going to start another thread to respond. I don't want to hijack Phillies thread.

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