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Old 12-12-2005, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default Best Bottom Feeders?

Many of my friends who are fish keepers are insisting that cory catfishes are the best bottom feeders. I say that clown loaches are. Is either of us right? Or is there another bottom feeder that is a better bottom feeder?
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:45 PM   #2
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I would say its an opinon. I like plecostumas myself.
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:46 PM   #3
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plecos are not bottom feeders at all.

I'd say snails and ghost shrimp are the most efficient.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:15 AM   #4
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Depends on tank size and personal preference. I like cories myself as they produce less waste per intake. Clowns are nice but get too big for many common tanks. Cherry shrimp and Amano shrimp are probably the most efficient but can't be kept with as many types of fish.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:05 AM   #5
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in my limited exerience, ghost shrimp or other scavenging shrimp.
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Ghost shrimp are not good scavangers. For shrimp, you cant beat the 2 listed above. Bamboo shrimp are good filter feeders and are large enough for most non cichlid tanks. Crystal reds are pretty good. Bumblebee are not but are pretty and active.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:34 PM   #7
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I always felt the best of all bottom feeders is a good tank vaccuming system.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:52 PM   #8
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Yep, honestly I don't think most fish are good bottom feeders.

They are supposed to be there to eat uneaten food and all that, well they have to have food and produce waste right?

Some like plecos produce way more waste than what they eat up for you. I had a pleco that ate all the uneaten food and whatnot off the bottom but it totally ruined my tank with the mess it made.

To eat uneaten food though I really prefer kuhli loaches.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:56 PM   #9
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Technically cories should be the best bottom feeders because they are strict bottom feeders while clown loaches often take food from the surface.
(Some cories do take food from the suface but they don't do this naturally).
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What do you guys suggest for a bottom feeder in a 10gallon?
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:45 PM   #11
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my geophagus cichlid is a wonderful bottom feeder. it's constantly sifting through the sand for any uneaten food. stingrays also make good bottom feeders for their endless appetite and their constant grazing through sand.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:01 PM   #12
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Clown Loaches definately aren't the best...My three ATTACK the food at the top of the tank when I feed my fish. I vary my fish's diet, but the main food I use are blood worms. As soon as I drop the frozen cubes in, the Loaches SHOOT to the top and compete with the rest of the fish.
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I still say snails and ghost shrimp. snails eat leftover food, even if it starts to spoil. though thry do produce quite a bit of waste. My MTS are great, they horde around wafers and such when the lights go off, and dont touch my live plants. Cories are good, but you do have to specifically feed them things to keep them. ghost shrimp will eat anything, and will find the food within seconds of it hitting the ground. they dont produce much waste, and even eat other fish's waste. they also cost around a quarter.


Ive never kept clown loaches, but my yoyo loaches do a great job at eating flakes and frozen foods that hit the bottom. they will eat from the top, but after they do that they scourge the bottom for missed moursels.
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plecos are not bottom feeders at all.

I'd say snails and ghost shrimp are the most efficient.
I believe they are bottom feeders
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They will eat things fed to them that reach the bottom, like pellets, zuchini, green beans, algae wafers.


but are not scavengers.
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Ok I'm not tryin to argue with you but he said bottom feeder ot scavenger I know they're not scavengers but after checking just to make for sure everywheres says they are bottom feeders
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The clown loaches I had were not good bottom feeders. They also get too large for an average sized aquarium.

My cories do a good job but the gravel is dirty still because I supplement them with shrimp pellets and algae wafers. They are for pleasure not use in my tank.

Snails are good but to me their poop is nasty and it smells horrible when they die.

Ghost shrimp tend to disappear or get eaten in my tanks and they cant dig too far down.
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