A good day in the waters.....

wetpetshawaii · 10-04-2007, 05:05 AM

WOW...what a day!!! At 160 feet.....on kaena Point in Honolulu Hawaii I was able to catch 4 crosshatch trigger fishes.......1 female and 3 males.....there were a bunch more down there unfortunately time....and air were a factor....these fish have a retail value between $300-$500 ea.I plan on keeping a pair for my tank... I am definately going to return to that dive spot another day......Aloha!!!

adpierin11 · 10-04-2007, 08:47 AM

Can we see some pictures please!! I wish I lived in Hawaii, that would be so great!

**Osiris** · 10-04-2007, 09:16 AM

Wow gotta be skilled to be able to catch fish out in the ocean, can't imagine it's a easy task..

Ice · 10-04-2007, 09:32 AM

I believe it illegal to capture fish in Hawaiian waters. Check their laws. Also - it's taboo and bad luck to bring anything home from Hawaii - remember the Brady Bunch episode ? LOL !!!

**TheOldSalt** · 10-04-2007, 12:02 PM

HAHA!
The laws regarding collecting in hawaiian waters are pretty restrictive, yes. Fish can be collected with the proper permits, but no rock and be harvested at all as I understand it.

Since when are those fish worth that much? I suspect they're worth that only in Hawaii where everything costs too much, which is still fine for you, but if you try to sell them online for that much I think you'll be disappointed. Or not. We'll see.

I've collected fish in the open ocean myself a few times, and yes Osiris, it's pretty tricky. Triggers are either very easy or very hard to catch. They either charge after you or swim away with amazing speed. I don't know how these in particular act.

CollegeReefer · 10-04-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOldSalt

HAHA!
They either charge after you or swim away with amazing speed.

Swim for your lives!

Kyoberr · 10-04-2007, 03:12 PM

I am so jealous! Please post pictures!

wetpetshawaii · 10-05-2007, 07:21 AM

Yes you are right...the laws restrict us to harvest live rock....unless you have a special permit to display for educational purposes....A commercial marine licence allows a diver to catch livestock...but you are required to submit a dive catch report monthly to the state AG office.....as far as the Crosshatch retail prices....that is accurate....super males(XL) go for $500+ the smaller males start at $300 retail. Pricing structure goes like this from diver to Hawaii distributor is $80 then Hawaii distributor to a mainland wholesaler is $120-$140 then mainland wholesaler to pet retailer $180-$200 so naturally a pet retailer will start his pricing out at $300....Im not selling the ones I caught because it is easier for me to sell it directly to a Pet Retailer here in Hawaii then to ship it out...and I also plan on keeping a pair for myself.....I will post pictures up as soon as I can....thanks....and A hui ho kakou(till we meet again) Also saw a Dragon Morey that day but I wussed out because he was huge and his teeth was'nt gonna touch my skin..ha ha ha

wetpetshawaii · 10-05-2007, 07:31 AM

Crosshatch triggerfish (Xanthicthys mento) tend to not venture far from their reef dwelling they see a diver and will swim into their hole or wedge themselves under the reef....the trick is to gently and cautiously stick your hand or an object into the reef and chase the trigger out into your net...without damaging the reef or the fish.....time spent at that depth(160ft) is only about 20-25 minutes....then you gotta start your assend....if you do successfully catch them it takes hours to slowly bring the fish up to the surface from the boat or the fish will suffer from air bladder problems...some divers pin the fish with a hypodermic needle to release the pressure on the fishes bladder upon asscending...not a good practice as often a fish will suffer from an infection or swollen belly...and die a few days later....thats why this fish cost so much because divers go through great lenghts to get them.....

wetpetshawaii · 11-30-2007, 04:47 AM

some pictures....of the male crosshatch trigger

CollegeReefer · 11-30-2007, 10:15 AM

lol a month later

jasno999 · 11-30-2007, 10:44 AM

I have to say I am jealeous that you get to dive in Hawaii and see this stuff on a regular basis. I would love to be able to do that and live in a place where I could be in the water every day.

On the other hand I am very dissapointed in you tanking these fish from the water.... You never said if you had the proper permits or not. If not I hope you get caught cause you are doing something illegal and hurting the reef environment. If you do have the proper permits then ok- I just think we need to make sure we keep a close eye on what we take out of the ocean to make sure we don't do something bad....

wetpetshawaii · 12-01-2007, 08:08 AM

thanks for the concern...yes I do have a licence and only take what the state species lists authorize me to do.....if your ever in Hawaii I can take you out diving on my boat....and show you some cool dive spots....sorry for the late pics...guess Im on Hawaiian time...LOL!!!

Dr_House · 12-01-2007, 09:21 AM

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sorry for the late pics...guess Im on Hawaiian time...LOL!!!

LOL - there's just no pleasing some people. That's a great looking fish! I can't imagine catching fish in the open ocean. I usually have a hard time catching fish in an aquarium! lol Keep us posted with what you catch! I won't get cranky if I have to wait another month.

jasno999 - Fish-collecting, when done properly, is about the least threatening thing there is to a reef. You can rest easy.

wetpetshawaii · 12-02-2007, 07:08 AM

Thanks.....yesterday I couldnt go out diving because of rough waters (rain stroms here) but I went into the shallow...(rough waters) cant keep me away from the ocean too long....anyways caught.....some halloween hermits, and linkia starfish...till I saw a small hammerhead shark.... and I thought to myself Im outa here!!! LOL but I stayed about 20 more minutes and collected a few small red slate pencil urchins.....anyways hope you all are having a great weekend...ALoha! WPH

wetpetshawaii · 12-09-2007, 04:12 AM

todays catch strawberry crabs,hawaiian sand anemone....not much out there the waters still a little rough hopefully the weather and high surf calms down....

Ice · 12-09-2007, 08:32 AM

Cool pics ! Can you give us more info on strawberry crab and sand anemone - Care, Reef safe etc ... ? Looks awesome. It's amazing what you can find in the ocean nowadays.

wetpetshawaii · 12-10-2007, 04:59 AM

Here is a link on the strawberry crab.....I cannot give my opinion on if its reef safe because we cant have reefs here in Hawaii

I have read though that they are reef safe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_crab

Aloha

Zanekiller · 12-16-2007, 07:05 PM

Wow

Lucky!

my grandparents are going soon so next time im there im gonna go scuba diving.

wetpetshawaii · 12-28-2007, 04:09 AM

when you come here to Hawaii hit me up I will take you diving on my boat.....a hui ho kakou (till we meet again)

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Originally Posted by Zanekiller

Wow

Lucky!

my grandparents are going soon so next time im there im gonna go scuba diving.

10-04-2007, 05:05 AM	#1
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74	A good day in the waters..... WOW...what a day!!! At 160 feet.....on kaena Point in Honolulu Hawaii I was able to catch 4 crosshatch trigger fishes.......1 female and 3 males.....there were a bunch more down there unfortunately time....and air were a factor....these fish have a retail value between $300-$500 ea.I plan on keeping a pair for my tank... I am definately going to return to that dive spot another day......Aloha!!!

10-04-2007, 08:47 AM	#2
adpierin11 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over the Rainbow, Florida Age: 24 Posts: 86	Can we see some pictures please!! I wish I lived in Hawaii, that would be so great! __________________ 75 gallon- 1 pleco 1 OB Peac0ck 1 Yellow Lab 1 Blue Peac0ck 1 Greshakei 1 Red Peac0ck 1 Acei 1 CAE 2 dogs Diesel and Hummer!

10-04-2007, 09:16 AM	#3
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,714	Wow gotta be skilled to be able to catch fish out in the ocean, can't imagine it's a easy task.. __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

10-04-2007, 03:12 PM	#7
Kyoberr The Hip Hop Hippopotamus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 398	I am so jealous! Please post pictures! __________________ There are always more fish in the sea!!!

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10-04-2007, 09:32 AM	#4
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 532	I believe it illegal to capture fish in Hawaiian waters. Check their laws. Also - it's taboo and bad luck to bring anything home from Hawaii - remember the Brady Bunch episode ? LOL !!!

10-04-2007, 12:02 PM	#5
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,360	HAHA! The laws regarding collecting in hawaiian waters are pretty restrictive, yes. Fish can be collected with the proper permits, but no rock and be harvested at all as I understand it. Since when are those fish worth that much? I suspect they're worth that only in Hawaii where everything costs too much, which is still fine for you, but if you try to sell them online for that much I think you'll be disappointed. Or not. We'll see. I've collected fish in the open ocean myself a few times, and yes Osiris, it's pretty tricky. Triggers are either very easy or very hard to catch. They either charge after you or swim away with amazing speed. I don't know how these in particular act.

10-05-2007, 07:21 AM	#8
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74	Yes you are right...the laws restrict us to harvest live rock....unless you have a special permit to display for educational purposes....A commercial marine licence allows a diver to catch livestock...but you are required to submit a dive catch report monthly to the state AG office.....as far as the Crosshatch retail prices....that is accurate....super males(XL) go for $500+ the smaller males start at $300 retail. Pricing structure goes like this from diver to Hawaii distributor is $80 then Hawaii distributor to a mainland wholesaler is $120-$140 then mainland wholesaler to pet retailer $180-$200 so naturally a pet retailer will start his pricing out at $300....Im not selling the ones I caught because it is easier for me to sell it directly to a Pet Retailer here in Hawaii then to ship it out...and I also plan on keeping a pair for myself.....I will post pictures up as soon as I can....thanks....and A hui ho kakou(till we meet again) Also saw a Dragon Morey that day but I wussed out because he was huge and his teeth was'nt gonna touch my skin..ha ha ha

10-05-2007, 07:31 AM	#9
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74	Crosshatch triggerfish (Xanthicthys mento) tend to not venture far from their reef dwelling they see a diver and will swim into their hole or wedge themselves under the reef....the trick is to gently and cautiously stick your hand or an object into the reef and chase the trigger out into your net...without damaging the reef or the fish.....time spent at that depth(160ft) is only about 20-25 minutes....then you gotta start your assend....if you do successfully catch them it takes hours to slowly bring the fish up to the surface from the boat or the fish will suffer from air bladder problems...some divers pin the fish with a hypodermic needle to release the pressure on the fishes bladder upon asscending...not a good practice as often a fish will suffer from an infection or swollen belly...and die a few days later....thats why this fish cost so much because divers go through great lenghts to get them.....

11-30-2007, 10:44 AM	#12
jasno999 Aquarium Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA - PA Age: 30 Posts: 82	I have to say I am jealeous that you get to dive in Hawaii and see this stuff on a regular basis. I would love to be able to do that and live in a place where I could be in the water every day. On the other hand I am very dissapointed in you tanking these fish from the water.... You never said if you had the proper permits or not. If not I hope you get caught cause you are doing something illegal and hurting the reef environment. If you do have the proper permits then ok- I just think we need to make sure we keep a close eye on what we take out of the ocean to make sure we don't do something bad.... __________________ Here Fishy Fishy Current Tanks: 10 Gallon FW Livebearer tank 10 Gallon SW Nano-Type Reef 29 Gallon FW Mixed Tank

12-01-2007, 08:08 AM	#13
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74	thanks for the concern...yes I do have a licence and only take what the state species lists authorize me to do.....if your ever in Hawaii I can take you out diving on my boat....and show you some cool dive spots....sorry for the late pics...guess Im on Hawaiian time...LOL!!!

12-09-2007, 08:32 AM	#17
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 532	Cool pics ! Can you give us more info on strawberry crab and sand anemone - Care, Reef safe etc ... ? Looks awesome. It's amazing what you can find in the ocean nowadays.

12-10-2007, 04:59 AM	#18
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74	Here is a link on the strawberry crab.....I cannot give my opinion on if its reef safe because we cant have reefs here in Hawaii I have read though that they are reef safe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_crab Aloha

12-16-2007, 07:05 PM	#19
Zanekiller Fishy Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 12	Wow Lucky! my grandparents are going soon so next time im there im gonna go scuba diving.

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