Dwarf angels ...

Ice · 11-30-2006, 01:04 PM

I know I have been eyeing on a Coral Beauty as my last fish for my future SW tank. I have also looked at the Flame angel as well. Now I kinda do like the Lemonpeel Angel or the Heraldi Angel. Will any of the dwarf angels prone to nip on corals ? I have planned on adding some beginner corals - mushrooms, polyps/zoas, xenias and maybe a candy cane coral. Which of the angels above are reef safe and how aggressive are they compared to the others ? Are any of the above the least aggressive of the species ? I'm only having one in a tank.

Bear · 11-30-2006, 01:15 PM

from what I've seen, read, and heard, they are all going to do it at one time or another. It may only be once in a while, it may be alot, it and it may be a while before the do it, but it will eventually happen.

PerculaClown · 12-01-2006, 05:05 PM

I have a coralbeauty and he never touched any of my corals

Fishnewb1 · 12-01-2006, 05:18 PM

i also have a coral beauty and he hasnt nipped any of my corals...
I think one key to it is to feed them well...
From what I have heard they wont nip at most lps but will on the softies such as the polyps and xenia. Your taking a 50/50 chance when getting an angel, but even if it does nip it wont do any major damage to anything.

TheReefAddict · 12-11-2006, 09:36 PM

Yes...very true.. I have had many different pigmy angels..I just recently bought another coral beauty. They wrecked havok on my old 30gal reef, but yes if you stay consistent feeding them you have a better chance. I would say the flame is the more precious and vibrant, but the coral beauty is the easiest to maintain of the group. I love dwarf angels! If I could i would have one of each in my tank!

ivanpres · 03-30-2007, 01:06 PM

I also have a Coral Beauty and he never touch the corals. I think that of all them, the coral beauty is considered the safest for the reef tank. I like him because of his vibrant color and unexpensive cost.

Reefneck · 03-30-2007, 01:15 PM

Truthfully, There is NO Angel that is Reef Safe!! None, No matter what any LFS tells you! (I have seen some say they are)

**Scuba Kid** · 03-30-2007, 01:58 PM

I had a coral beauty that did kill a some coral i had. It was a stony hard coral and nipped the polyps to death. I agree with reefneck. You cannot guarantee that a dwarf angelfish, regardless of species, is reef safe. Although it is more like that they will leave corals alone, its party dependent on the individual personality of the fish.

fishfingers · 03-31-2007, 03:37 AM

Its gonna be a toss up as to whether it will nip corals, it just depends on the personality of the fish. Out of the corals you mentioned though I think it would leave them alone, as I think they are more prone to nip LPS/SPS. I've also kept a coral beauty and it left my corals alone, however it could of gone either way. The only way you'll find out is to try.

Not sure on the aggression sorry.

Reefneck · 03-31-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fishfingers

Out of the corals you mentioned though I think it would leave them alone, as I think they are more prone to nip LPS/SPS.

Quite the opposite! They generally nip at soft corals.

Bear · 03-31-2007, 10:05 AM

The best thing to do is buy an angel and put it in a new FOWLR

Leave it outta the reef, a bunch of people have tried it. Claimed, "Oh, not my angel, he's soooo well behaved" and then chomp! at least $100s of dollars in coral down the tubes. And guess what! You still have to catch the fish.

I took a chance with something like this once. You have to be super careful with what you put into your tank before you do it or else you'll hate yourself afterwords.

leveldrummer · 03-31-2007, 10:48 AM

all the angels ive seen that do nip, have expensive taste, and always go after your prized posetions first, i had a cherub that destroyed 4 blasto colonies.

11-30-2006, 01:04 PM	#1
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 532	Dwarf angels ... I know I have been eyeing on a Coral Beauty as my last fish for my future SW tank. I have also looked at the Flame angel as well. Now I kinda do like the Lemonpeel Angel or the Heraldi Angel. Will any of the dwarf angels prone to nip on corals ? I have planned on adding some beginner corals - mushrooms, polyps/zoas, xenias and maybe a candy cane coral. Which of the angels above are reef safe and how aggressive are they compared to the others ? Are any of the above the least aggressive of the species ? I'm only having one in a tank.

11-30-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	from what I've seen, read, and heard, they are all going to do it at one time or another. It may only be once in a while, it may be alot, it and it may be a while before the do it, but it will eventually happen. __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

12-01-2006, 05:18 PM	#4
Fishnewb1 Future Marine Biologist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 394	i also have a coral beauty and he hasnt nipped any of my corals... I think one key to it is to feed them well... From what I have heard they wont nip at most lps but will on the softies such as the polyps and xenia. Your taking a 50/50 chance when getting an angel, but even if it does nip it wont do any major damage to anything. __________________ 55g Reef 16g of water.

12-11-2006, 09:36 PM	#5
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	Yes...very true.. I have had many different pigmy angels..I just recently bought another coral beauty. They wrecked havok on my old 30gal reef, but yes if you stay consistent feeding them you have a better chance. I would say the flame is the more precious and vibrant, but the coral beauty is the easiest to maintain of the group. I love dwarf angels! If I could i would have one of each in my tank! __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

03-30-2007, 01:06 PM	#6
ivanpres The Angelfish Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Naguabo, Puerto Rico Age: 25 Posts: 19	I also have a Coral Beauty and he never touch the corals. I think that of all them, the coral beauty is considered the safest for the reef tank. I like him because of his vibrant color and unexpensive cost. __________________ 80 gallon saltwater tank, 100 lbs. of live rock, live sand. Filter Rena Filstar xp3, chiller Resun CL-650, protein skimmer Marineland SeaClone SCPS 150, pomp and power heads Marineland Maxi-Jet, 9watt UV Sterilizer Coralife Turbo-Twist 3x, Coralife 48 inch. Deluxe Lunar Series Fixture.

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12-01-2006, 05:05 PM	#3
PerculaClown Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 18 Posts: 116	I have a coralbeauty and he never touched any of my corals

03-30-2007, 01:15 PM	#7
Reefneck Senior Aquarist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Near a Coral Reef Age: 47 Posts: 1,351	Truthfully, There is NO Angel that is Reef Safe!! None, No matter what any LFS tells you! (I have seen some say they are) __________________ I wonder how much salt mix I would need to turn our in ground pool into a Reef.

03-30-2007, 01:58 PM	#8
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,224	I had a coral beauty that did kill a some coral i had. It was a stony hard coral and nipped the polyps to death. I agree with reefneck. You cannot guarantee that a dwarf angelfish, regardless of species, is reef safe. Although it is more like that they will leave corals alone, its party dependent on the individual personality of the fish. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

03-31-2007, 03:37 AM	#9
fishfingers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Age: 18 Posts: 129	Its gonna be a toss up as to whether it will nip corals, it just depends on the personality of the fish. Out of the corals you mentioned though I think it would leave them alone, as I think they are more prone to nip LPS/SPS. I've also kept a coral beauty and it left my corals alone, however it could of gone either way. The only way you'll find out is to try. Not sure on the aggression sorry.

03-31-2007, 10:05 AM	#11
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	The best thing to do is buy an angel and put it in a new FOWLR Leave it outta the reef, a bunch of people have tried it. Claimed, "Oh, not my angel, he's soooo well behaved" and then chomp! at least $100s of dollars in coral down the tubes. And guess what! You still have to catch the fish. I took a chance with something like this once. You have to be super careful with what you put into your tank before you do it or else you'll hate yourself afterwords. __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

03-31-2007, 10:48 AM	#12
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	all the angels ive seen that do nip, have expensive taste, and always go after your prized posetions first, i had a cherub that destroyed 4 blasto colonies. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

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