Octopus - Page 2

StarLab · 01-15-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingo

If the octopus is the size of a golfball when curled up, that could mean 1. It's a small juvenile of a larger species or 2. It's a full grown pygmy/dwarf octopus (O. joubini, mercatoris, etc.).

He actually came out for food today. After a better look, he's more the size of a ping-pong ball. But he wasn't out for long... just enough time to grab the food and retreat back to his cave. Cooool!

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If it were a blue spot... you'd know by now. If you did have one, and it bit you... you'd be dead for sure IMHO. One bite can kill up to 25 people if I remember correctly.

If it was one of those, we'd have to hire more staff so the venom wouldn't go to waste. LOL Again, no sign of blue anywhere.

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(btw, if you do decide to take it home, know what spcies first. Some dwarves can live in 10 gallons, bimacs need 55s etc.)

Wish I could! But circumstances ATM don't allow me the luxury of a tank at home. Besides, I have 60 FW tanks, 6 Brackish, 3 Reef systems, and 3 100Gal SW cubicle setups to play with at work. I'm pretty much "fished" out by the time I get home.

StarLab · 01-15-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOldSalt

Being intelligent creatures, they are prone to boredom. A bored octopus is trouble waiting to happen. Try to give your octopus something to do, lest it decide that disassembling the filter might be fun. I lost one that way, once.

Any good suggestions on a "toy" for distraction?

**Scuba Kid** · 01-15-2007, 05:08 PM

try some of the stuff i suggested. Mine had a lot of fun trying to get his food. Just try to give em plenty of attention or like old salt said, their curiousity can get the best of them.

StarLab · 01-15-2007, 05:24 PM

Will do! Thanks so much to everyone here. You've been a big help.

I have sent my boss a link to this thread as I want him to be aware that this isn't "just another specimen".

We have had (still have) some pretty cool stuff in our store (ring tail lemurs, caimans, etc) but nothing has caught my attention like this has.

If it just wasn't so darn nocturnal, it would have made a wonderful "store pet"

Ice · 01-15-2007, 10:44 PM

Ring tailed lemurs ?!?! Caimans ?!!?! What store kind of store are you working at ??? LOL !!! I know Caimans you need a Federal license to own. Hmmm ... got any squirrel monkeys ? LOL !!!

Isn't it true most octopus found in the aquaria trade are mostly females ?

StarLab · 01-16-2007, 01:53 AM

Why, an exotic pet store of coarse.

In Canada, no license is required to keep Caiman's. However, a person needs to check with their local municipal by-law office at the city level.

The town where we are located has no such restrictions, whereas surrounding cities have by-laws against things like scorpions, crocodiles, etc. Needless to say, we get a lot of out of town traffic.

And... just to stay on topic... Octopuses are cool! Hehehee..

**TheOldSalt** · 01-16-2007, 03:00 AM

Yes they are cool. It's very easy to get quite fond of them, which makes their short lifespan all the more heartbreaking.

**Scuba Kid** · 01-16-2007, 07:38 AM

Does anyone know how to sex octopi?

StarLab · 01-16-2007, 08:10 AM

I read this:

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As far as sexing octopuses goes, mature males will have a ligula, which looks something like a small catchers mit on one of their arms.

Info on this seems to be scarce. Anyone have a link?

**Scuba Kid** · 01-16-2007, 12:16 PM

Well i was wondering if there was a way to sex them while juveniles....i ask because im interested in breeding bimacs, but it'd be pointless if io couldnt determine the mommy from the daddy. :P

Edit: BTW, does anyone have any info (link or something) on breeding O. Bimaculoides? (Two-spot octo, bimac octo)

Bear · 01-16-2007, 12:52 PM

^^^would be awsome if you could get that worked out!

flamingo · 01-16-2007, 02:35 PM

Breeding may be hard since in an aquarium setting they can become cannabilistic. And no, not all octo's in the aquarium trade are females. A large majority of peoples octos are females though- usually laying eggs before death. Most of the time they aren't fertilized (octopuss can store sperm, and are only impregnated if done so in the wild before capture).

The behavior of the octpus you have is kind of confusing. While it is small and quite nocturnal from reading your posts, you also mention it's getting to come out in the open. Likely, it's a larger species because most dwarves are very nocturnal in nature.

http://www.thecephalopodpage.org/
www.tonmo.com

-both great places to start. I dont personally stick around tonmo long enough to meet many of the people, but some are pretty nice. Some are know it alls... some are just wierd, just like any forum.

fraser27 · 01-16-2007, 02:39 PM

i would luv to have a octo, but i dnt have saltwater tank as i have herd that they can be quite difficult and tricky to set up!

**Scuba Kid** · 01-16-2007, 04:18 PM

A guy posted on tonmo about his experience breeding bimacs. He was lucky enough to get a male and a female and they just kind of did their own thing. I'm seriously thinking about taking a shot at breeding bimacs and recording everything that happens.
it'd be a cool senior project

Puffer Pita · 01-16-2007, 05:02 PM

Found this link in the new Aquarium Fish magazine:
http://www.livescience.com/animalwor...us_elbows.html

01-15-2007, 05:08 PM	#23
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	try some of the stuff i suggested. Mine had a lot of fun trying to get his food. Just try to give em plenty of attention or like old salt said, their curiousity can get the best of them. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

01-16-2007, 07:38 AM	#28
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	Does anyone know how to sex octopi? __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

01-16-2007, 12:16 PM	#30
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	Well i was wondering if there was a way to sex them while juveniles....i ask because im interested in breeding bimacs, but it'd be pointless if io couldnt determine the mommy from the daddy. :P Edit: BTW, does anyone have any info (link or something) on breeding O. Bimaculoides? (Two-spot octo, bimac octo) __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks Last edited by Scuba Kid; 01-16-2007 at 12:25 PM.

01-16-2007, 12:52 PM	#31
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	^^^would be awsome if you could get that worked out! __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

01-16-2007, 02:35 PM	#32
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 17 Posts: 1,899	Breeding may be hard since in an aquarium setting they can become cannabilistic. And no, not all octo's in the aquarium trade are females. A large majority of peoples octos are females though- usually laying eggs before death. Most of the time they aren't fertilized (octopuss can store sperm, and are only impregnated if done so in the wild before capture). The behavior of the octpus you have is kind of confusing. While it is small and quite nocturnal from reading your posts, you also mention it's getting to come out in the open. Likely, it's a larger species because most dwarves are very nocturnal in nature. http://www.thecephalopodpage.org/ www.tonmo.com -both great places to start. I dont personally stick around tonmo long enough to meet many of the people, but some are pretty nice. Some are know it alls... some are just wierd, just like any forum. __________________ If you put "u" instead of typing out the actual, shocking, three letter word... i'm not going to read your ramblings. I'm so behind it's not even funny.

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01-15-2007, 05:24 PM	#24
StarLab Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 81	Will do! Thanks so much to everyone here. You've been a big help. I have sent my boss a link to this thread as I want him to be aware that this isn't "just another specimen". We have had (still have) some pretty cool stuff in our store (ring tail lemurs, caimans, etc) but nothing has caught my attention like this has. If it just wasn't so darn nocturnal, it would have made a wonderful "store pet"

01-15-2007, 10:44 PM	#25
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 531	Ring tailed lemurs ?!?! Caimans ?!!?! What store kind of store are you working at ??? LOL !!! I know Caimans you need a Federal license to own. Hmmm ... got any squirrel monkeys ? LOL !!! Isn't it true most octopus found in the aquaria trade are mostly females ?

01-16-2007, 01:53 AM	#26
StarLab Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 81	Why, an exotic pet store of coarse. In Canada, no license is required to keep Caiman's. However, a person needs to check with their local municipal by-law office at the city level. The town where we are located has no such restrictions, whereas surrounding cities have by-laws against things like scorpions, crocodiles, etc. Needless to say, we get a lot of out of town traffic. And... just to stay on topic... Octopuses are cool! Hehehee..

01-16-2007, 03:00 AM	#27
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,354	Yes they are cool. It's very easy to get quite fond of them, which makes their short lifespan all the more heartbreaking.

01-16-2007, 02:39 PM	#33
fraser27 cichlid lover!!! yeaaaaaa Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Age: 17 Posts: 96	i would luv to have a octo, but i dnt have saltwater tank as i have herd that they can be quite difficult and tricky to set up! __________________ small community tank full of barbs, 70L tank with breeing(hopefully) convicts!!!(god, he loves to dig!!!)

01-16-2007, 04:18 PM	#34
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	A guy posted on tonmo about his experience breeding bimacs. He was lucky enough to get a male and a female and they just kind of did their own thing. I'm seriously thinking about taking a shot at breeding bimacs and recording everything that happens. it'd be a cool senior project __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

01-16-2007, 05:02 PM	#35
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