VHOs vs T5 - Page 2

Reefneck · 02-22-2007, 03:28 PM

SUPM, I want this tank to be RIGHT!!

When I design a tank setup I demand it be the way the customer wants it! Ask Leveldrummer. I designed his first tank. He learned too much from me though and now can do just as good a job as I can. lol.

harif87 · 02-22-2007, 10:28 PM

I would have to go with Reefneck here. Its known that corals grow better under 10K lighting with high intensities from the red part of the spectrum than they do under 20Ks which lack the red and have more blue.
(btw, good job in listening to experienced reefers, seriously..)

Anyways as far as T5 and VHOs go, i ordered a pair of Current USA 175 watt pendants with 10K bulbs (might switch em for 14K)..... now my dilemma is, what should i do with my PC system??? ........ hmmm...that coffe table could use something to level it out.......

Bear · 02-22-2007, 11:45 PM

...im stubborn, its not the best thing to be, but things usually end up ok. No disrespect was meant (I am still pretty new to this...this is like my 4th month of this so Ive still got some learning to do

)

you just completely bypassed the T5 and VHOs? Lucky dog, I would do the same if it was an option. Are you going to add any actinics?

Bear · 02-27-2007, 10:14 AM

harif, lets see some pics when you get it up

harif87 · 02-27-2007, 10:49 AM

Ill have them next week. But when i do, i gotta get my camera back from Olympus before i could take any pics

Bear · 02-27-2007, 02:19 PM

cool, hope that doesnt take too long. My T5s are coming on wed or thurs...its nice bein so close to LA sometimes

vvolfe1 · 02-27-2007, 03:16 PM

T5 vs VHO vs MH. It really all depends on the look you are going for and what you like. All 3 will provide enough light depending on amount of bulbs and setup. I heard VHO Actinics rock over T5's have not seen them to compare though. I personally like the MH's the best. Something about the single point light source. It causes shimmer and shadows unlike the tube lights.
Pretty soon I'll have 2x 175 10k MH and 2x 54w T5's actinics. I might go VHO for actinics but will probably go 4x T5's if I dont like the look of 2 T5's

leveldrummer · 02-27-2007, 04:01 PM

man, i wish i saw this sooner, not to step on toes, but its all opinion, and im a HUGE fan or 6500k's with actinics, the 10ks look great, but the 6500ks will really make reds and yellows pop as good as the blue light makes greens pop. it seems to only work with t5's from what ive seen. ive never tried with pc's and 6500k mh's just look nasty.

but when you go to get new bulbs, try 2 65, 2 10 and 2 actinic 03, if you dont like it, you can slap me.

Bear · 02-27-2007, 06:07 PM

^^haha ok, the next time around I am sure different bulb configurations will be tried

harif87 · 02-27-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leveldrummer

man, i wish i saw this sooner, not to step on toes, but its all opinion, and im a HUGE fan or 6500k's with actinics, the 10ks look great, but the 6500ks will really make reds and yellows pop as good as the blue light makes greens pop. it seems to only work with t5's from what ive seen. ive never tried with pc's and 6500k mh's just look nasty.

but when you go to get new bulbs, try 2 65, 2 10 and 2 actinic 03, if you dont like it, you can slap me.

Definately all opinion.

I understand your a fan of 6500K w/ actinics, but with what bulbs?

leveldrummer · 02-28-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harif87

Definately all opinion.

I understand your a fan of 6500K w/ actinics, but with what bulbs?

t5s are the only ones ive seen look really good, but i havent seen pc's that way, and 6500k mh's dont look good at all, no amount of actinic can counteract that yellow. or am i not understanding your question?

harif87 · 02-28-2007, 01:56 PM

I mean what brand? Ushio, XM, Coralife etc?

leveldrummer · 02-28-2007, 05:08 PM

you would have to do your own research on that, im not a pro at t5's, and i run mh's hamiltons myself, there is lots of stuff out there that will tell you the par of what ever bulb you want to know.

Bear · 02-28-2007, 07:35 PM

I just got the lights up and runnin on the tank. I have never seen a tank that looks this awesome, I dont know why you dont see more softie tanks with T5s. I just cleaned the glass and fed the fish so there is too much crud floating around so I will take pics tomorrow....this looks spectacular

leveldrummer · 02-28-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear

I just got the lights up and runnin on the tank. I have never seen a tank that looks this awesome, I dont know why you dont see more softie tanks with T5s. I just cleaned the glass and fed the fish so there is too much crud floating around so I will take pics tomorrow....this looks spectacular

the reason you dont see more softy tanks, is the same reason your about to start buying more lps and sps, its the natural progression of most reefers.

fishfingers · 03-16-2007, 09:01 AM

Hey guys. I've been shown another SPS tank that is run with T5's (primarily halides though by the looks of the photos). The colours this guy is getting though are just so incredible I thought I had to show you.

http://haaga.aqua-web.org/

There isn't as much variety as the other links but these just seem to be so much more vibrant.

harif87 · 03-16-2007, 10:13 AM

Nice pics fingers

BTW i got my halides 2 days ago

02-22-2007, 03:28 PM	#21
Reefneck Senior Aquarist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Near a Coral Reef Age: 47 Posts: 1,351	SUPM, I want this tank to be RIGHT!! When I design a tank setup I demand it be the way the customer wants it! Ask Leveldrummer. I designed his first tank. He learned too much from me though and now can do just as good a job as I can. lol. __________________ I wonder how much salt mix I would need to turn our in ground pool into a Reef. Last edited by Reefneck; 02-22-2007 at 03:36 PM.

02-22-2007, 10:28 PM	#22
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 996	I would have to go with Reefneck here. Its known that corals grow better under 10K lighting with high intensities from the red part of the spectrum than they do under 20Ks which lack the red and have more blue. (btw, good job in listening to experienced reefers, seriously..) Anyways as far as T5 and VHOs go, i ordered a pair of Current USA 175 watt pendants with 10K bulbs (might switch em for 14K)..... now my dilemma is, what should i do with my PC system??? ........ hmmm...that coffe table could use something to level it out....... __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

02-22-2007, 11:45 PM	#23
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	...im stubborn, its not the best thing to be, but things usually end up ok. No disrespect was meant (I am still pretty new to this...this is like my 4th month of this so Ive still got some learning to do ) you just completely bypassed the T5 and VHOs? Lucky dog, I would do the same if it was an option. Are you going to add any actinics? __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

02-27-2007, 10:14 AM	#24
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	harif, lets see some pics when you get it up __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

02-27-2007, 10:49 AM	#25
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 996	Ill have them next week. But when i do, i gotta get my camera back from Olympus before i could take any pics __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

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02-27-2007, 02:19 PM	#26
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	cool, hope that doesnt take too long. My T5s are coming on wed or thurs...its nice bein so close to LA sometimes __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

02-27-2007, 03:16 PM	#27
vvolfe1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 38 Posts: 126	T5 vs VHO vs MH. It really all depends on the look you are going for and what you like. All 3 will provide enough light depending on amount of bulbs and setup. I heard VHO Actinics rock over T5's have not seen them to compare though. I personally like the MH's the best. Something about the single point light source. It causes shimmer and shadows unlike the tube lights. Pretty soon I'll have 2x 175 10k MH and 2x 54w T5's actinics. I might go VHO for actinics but will probably go 4x T5's if I dont like the look of 2 T5's

02-27-2007, 04:01 PM	#28
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	man, i wish i saw this sooner, not to step on toes, but its all opinion, and im a HUGE fan or 6500k's with actinics, the 10ks look great, but the 6500ks will really make reds and yellows pop as good as the blue light makes greens pop. it seems to only work with t5's from what ive seen. ive never tried with pc's and 6500k mh's just look nasty. but when you go to get new bulbs, try 2 65, 2 10 and 2 actinic 03, if you dont like it, you can slap me. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

02-27-2007, 06:07 PM	#29
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	^^haha ok, the next time around I am sure different bulb configurations will be tried __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

02-28-2007, 01:56 PM	#32
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 996	I mean what brand? Ushio, XM, Coralife etc? __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

02-28-2007, 05:08 PM	#33
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	you would have to do your own research on that, im not a pro at t5's, and i run mh's hamiltons myself, there is lots of stuff out there that will tell you the par of what ever bulb you want to know. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

02-28-2007, 07:35 PM	#34
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 902	I just got the lights up and runnin on the tank. I have never seen a tank that looks this awesome, I dont know why you dont see more softie tanks with T5s. I just cleaned the glass and fed the fish so there is too much crud floating around so I will take pics tomorrow....this looks spectacular __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

03-16-2007, 09:01 AM	#36
fishfingers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Age: 18 Posts: 129	Hey guys. I've been shown another SPS tank that is run with T5's (primarily halides though by the looks of the photos). The colours this guy is getting though are just so incredible I thought I had to show you. http://haaga.aqua-web.org/ There isn't as much variety as the other links but these just seem to be so much more vibrant. Last edited by fishfingers; 03-16-2007 at 09:04 AM.

03-16-2007, 10:13 AM	#37
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 996	Nice pics fingers BTW i got my halides 2 days ago __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

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