what now?

Courtney · 03-14-2007, 02:44 AM

Well i just noticed last night that my 4 Striped Damsel fish is keeping my True Percula Clownfish Seperated and is acting like he wants to breed with the female, which is upsetting her alot, and is also upsetting the male, cause he cant go anywhere near her, the damsel keeps her near the end of the live rock and the male clown fish by the power head on the other end of the tank, i dont have any money infact im overdrawn as it is.. and i cant buy any friends for the damsel at the moment, they are in a 58 gallon tank, i dont know what to do , cause there isnt anyone around here to give the damsel too...the only thing to do would be to kill him, i hate to do that...

Sue Gremlin · 03-14-2007, 05:05 AM

Can you take him back to the store?

As I understand, Damselfish are extremely territorial, and if you got a "friend", your Damsel would beat the crap out of it.

Courtney · 03-14-2007, 05:59 AM

I didnt buy him at a store, least not around here i got him from Dr. Foster and Smith .com , i had others of a diffrent type, but my mom ahem..flushed them... cause they were really mean, i got them all at the same time... ( i know it was mean... so was letting it freeze to death in a bucket... )

**Scuba Kid** · 03-14-2007, 06:27 AM

Well take it to a lfs and maybe they'll give you some store credit. Worst case, they'll just take it off your hands. Most of the time, damsels are mean little bastards. Find another home for it before it kills your clownfish.

Sue Gremlin · 03-14-2007, 08:42 AM

Doesn't matter if you got it there or not. Most stores will take fish. Call around to places that have marine livestock and ask.

Ugh. NEVER flush a fish down the toilet. I don't understand how someone can have such disregard for a living creature. If you have fish, you need to know how to humanely euthanize them. I know what's done is done and you don't like what your mother did, but just FYI, there are more humane ways to do it.

Giddy012 · 03-14-2007, 11:28 AM

Sue, what are the ways to humanly euthanize a fish? I would like to know this incase I ever have another fish health issue, and the fish is going to die, but just suffering until then.

**Baby_Baby** · 03-14-2007, 12:15 PM

http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/c...ze_a_fish/P25/

I think we need to make a sticky about the correct and incorrect ways of fish euthanasia.

Sue Gremlin · 03-14-2007, 01:44 PM

Good idea.

Sue Gremlin · 03-14-2007, 01:50 PM

That article is great. You can also use 10-20 drops per gallon of clove oil, shaken to emulsify and using an airstone to keep it in solution. Anesthesia should occur in a few minutes, and death within 10 minutes.
Good idea to leave the fish in the solution for a couple of hours though.

**Scuba Kid** · 03-14-2007, 02:00 PM

You shouldnt euthanize a fish unless its for health reasons though. If its just because you have fish that aren't working in your tank, than that is a very poor excuse to euthanize a fish, IMO.

harif87 · 03-14-2007, 03:31 PM

Dont release a pest! Freezing is best!

http://www.usc.edu/org/seagrant/caulerpa/index.html

Sue Gremlin · 03-14-2007, 03:33 PM

Freeze your plants! Good idea.

Freezing fish? Not so much.

harif87 · 03-14-2007, 04:15 PM

Its promoted by NOAA and USC and Unitversity of Central Florida, and by many reefers too.

One of the main reasons (although not THE main) is because its more "humane" since the fish/invert supposedly daze off into death without pain

Oh and Courtney its not a good idea to get him a bud (as mentioned) hell probably pick on the clown too. Damsels are hard to get rid of many times because people tend to like other fish. However most LFS' will take your fish off your hands, sometimes with reimbursment sometimes without.

Ice · 03-15-2007, 08:47 AM

My opinion : trade him off to your LFS for credit. At least you're saving the fish without killing him.

Courtney · 03-15-2007, 05:41 PM

my LFS's dont do salt water.... and petco and places like that wont take them

**Fishfirst** · 03-16-2007, 10:10 AM

check out your local aquarium society

Courtney · 03-16-2007, 12:50 PM

we dont have one around here...

fishfingers · 03-16-2007, 04:24 PM

Are you sure?

Marine Aquarium Society of Ohio - http://www.masohio.com/

Courtney · 03-16-2007, 06:11 PM

yes positivly sure....

**Fishfirst** · 03-16-2007, 06:29 PM

The news paper or something like it... Petco does do adoptions but usually YOU have to pay to give them your fish.

03-14-2007, 02:44 AM	#1
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	what now? Well i just noticed last night that my 4 Striped Damsel fish is keeping my True Percula Clownfish Seperated and is acting like he wants to breed with the female, which is upsetting her alot, and is also upsetting the male, cause he cant go anywhere near her, the damsel keeps her near the end of the live rock and the male clown fish by the power head on the other end of the tank, i dont have any money infact im overdrawn as it is.. and i cant buy any friends for the damsel at the moment, they are in a 58 gallon tank, i dont know what to do , cause there isnt anyone around here to give the damsel too...the only thing to do would be to kill him, i hate to do that... __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100

03-14-2007, 05:59 AM	#3
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	I didnt buy him at a store, least not around here i got him from Dr. Foster and Smith .com , i had others of a diffrent type, but my mom ahem..flushed them... cause they were really mean, i got them all at the same time... ( i know it was mean... so was letting it freeze to death in a bucket... ) __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100

03-14-2007, 06:27 AM	#4
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,161	Well take it to a lfs and maybe they'll give you some store credit. Worst case, they'll just take it off your hands. Most of the time, damsels are mean little bastards. Find another home for it before it kills your clownfish. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

03-14-2007, 11:28 AM	#6
Giddy012 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 24 Posts: 230	Sue, what are the ways to humanly euthanize a fish? I would like to know this incase I ever have another fish health issue, and the fish is going to die, but just suffering until then. __________________ 10gal. Planted (1) Pitbull Pleco (2) Bolivian Rams (3) Erhartdi Cories 20gal. Long Planted (1) Otos (5) Guppies (3) Panda Cories Uncountable fry

03-14-2007, 12:15 PM	#7
Baby_Baby Friendly Neighborhood Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 3,607	http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/c...ze_a_fish/P25/ I think we need to make a sticky about the correct and incorrect ways of fish euthanasia. __________________ *Why do you have to "put your two cents in"... but it's only a "penny for your thoughts"? Where's that extra penny going to?*

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03-14-2007, 05:05 AM	#2
Sue Gremlin Fishfan Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 45 Posts: 131	Can you take him back to the store? As I understand, Damselfish are extremely territorial, and if you got a "friend", your Damsel would beat the crap out of it.

03-14-2007, 08:42 AM	#5
Sue Gremlin Fishfan Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 45 Posts: 131	Doesn't matter if you got it there or not. Most stores will take fish. Call around to places that have marine livestock and ask. Ugh. NEVER flush a fish down the toilet. I don't understand how someone can have such disregard for a living creature. If you have fish, you need to know how to humanely euthanize them. I know what's done is done and you don't like what your mother did, but just FYI, there are more humane ways to do it.

03-14-2007, 01:44 PM	#8
Sue Gremlin Fishfan Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 45 Posts: 131	Good idea.

03-14-2007, 01:50 PM	#9
Sue Gremlin Fishfan Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 45 Posts: 131	That article is great. You can also use 10-20 drops per gallon of clove oil, shaken to emulsify and using an airstone to keep it in solution. Anesthesia should occur in a few minutes, and death within 10 minutes. Good idea to leave the fish in the solution for a couple of hours though. Last edited by Sue Gremlin; 03-14-2007 at 02:01 PM.

03-14-2007, 02:00 PM	#10
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,161	You shouldnt euthanize a fish unless its for health reasons though. If its just because you have fish that aren't working in your tank, than that is a very poor excuse to euthanize a fish, IMO. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

03-14-2007, 03:31 PM	#11
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 992	Dont release a pest! Freezing is best! http://www.usc.edu/org/seagrant/caulerpa/index.html __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

03-14-2007, 03:33 PM	#12
Sue Gremlin Fishfan Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 45 Posts: 131	Freeze your plants! Good idea. Freezing fish? Not so much.

03-14-2007, 04:15 PM	#13
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 992	Its promoted by NOAA and USC and Unitversity of Central Florida, and by many reefers too. One of the main reasons (although not THE main) is because its more "humane" since the fish/invert supposedly daze off into death without pain Oh and Courtney its not a good idea to get him a bud (as mentioned) hell probably pick on the clown too. Damsels are hard to get rid of many times because people tend to like other fish. However most LFS' will take your fish off your hands, sometimes with reimbursment sometimes without. __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan" Last edited by harif87; 03-14-2007 at 04:17 PM.

03-15-2007, 08:47 AM	#14
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 523	My opinion : trade him off to your LFS for credit. At least you're saving the fish without killing him.

03-16-2007, 10:10 AM	#16
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	check out your local aquarium society __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

03-15-2007, 05:41 PM	#15
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	my LFS's dont do salt water.... and petco and places like that wont take them __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100

03-16-2007, 12:50 PM	#17
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	we dont have one around here... __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100

03-16-2007, 04:24 PM	#18
fishfingers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Age: 18 Posts: 129	Are you sure? Marine Aquarium Society of Ohio - http://www.masohio.com/

03-16-2007, 06:11 PM	#19
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	yes positivly sure.... __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100

03-16-2007, 06:29 PM	#20
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	The news paper or something like it... Petco does do adoptions but usually YOU have to pay to give them your fish. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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