Couple of my catches at the beach today

[wetpetshawaii]

thanks...I will check out the sites to give me ideas to better my artificial live rock making skills...I have been building artificial reefs for a couple of years now....here is a couple of pictures on how mixing color with krylon paint, surfboard resin pigments,and red coraline color epoxy sticks to try and get the live rock look.....what do you think.....be honest oh the ornamental corals were not my choice I built the reef and my customer put the corals in

oh dont worry using spray paint is safe and does not harm the fish after it has been through a curing process....though Im always open to learn new techniques....such as live rock aquaculture (turning dead rock back into a living rock) in a big 250 gallon vat.... havent tried that yet but its on my to do list for now fake live rock it is......taaaa daaaaam!!!

Originally Posted by TheOldSalt

Hey, Wetpets, have you considered making your own artificial liverock? There are ways you can do this which will give you a whole tankful of great looking rock for a tiny fraction of the price of real liverock, and it would be legal in Hawaii. Try the GARF website for some ideas, and ask.com also has some good stuff in the DIY (do it yourself) sections.
I'd bet that a whole lot of hawaiian would-be reefleepers would love to get some homemade liverock, so that could be another market for you, maybe.

[wetpetshawaii]

hey no pilikia: (no peee leeee key a) means No problem guys Jasno 999 is probably just looking at it from the perspective that if everyone destructively takes things from the ocean, destroys reefs there will be nothing left for our children and grand children......I assure you Jasno999 that it is 100% illegal for us to break a single piece of coral off of the reef (even if a fish is hiding in it...we cant break the reef apart.....period or face heavy fines $$$ we have a list issued to us from the state with all the species,and scientific names of what we are allowed to catch, any fish size limitations,closed collecting areas,and what absolutely must never be caught or I risk having my lic/permits of my business taken away....I see where your coming from and I too want my children and grandchildren in the years to come to be able to enjoy our precious sea life.....the ornamental fish industry worldwide is a multi billion dollar industry together on the fresh and salt side.....Aloha

[Ice]

Awesome tank, wetpetshawaii ! Love the Moorish Idols in there !!

[TheOldSalt]

Hee! Those aren't Moorish Idols. Look closer.

Wetpets, that rock looks really good! It might even be safe. However, the paint fills and blocks all the pores, which kinda ruins the whole main reason you'd want liverock in the first place, right?
It's slower, but you really can make the good stuff, and since you have a 250 gallon vat handy, you're well on your way. You can't import love rock into hawaii, but can you import liquefied coralline algae and liquified sponge? You can get these by the gallon at GARF. Put that into a vat full of rock, dose with Aragamilk and Purple-up, remove filtration for a few days and provide strong light, and your little rockfarm should be up and running.

[wetpetshawaii]

Hey mahalo(thank you) I will try that....I will try and order this stuff online....we dont have any of that here.....bummers....I will try and aqauculture real live rock.....and yes you are right with the paint and resin it does fill the pores....It just looks like the tank has live rock in it but its stilla FO system.....thanks again....Aloha LP@WPH

Originally Posted by TheOldSalt

Hee! Those aren't Moorish Idols. Look closer.

Wetpets, that rock looks really good! It might even be safe. However, the paint fills and blocks all the pores, which kinda ruins the whole main reason you'd want liverock in the first place, right?
It's slower, but you really can make the good stuff, and since you have a 250 gallon vat handy, you're well on your way. You can't import love rock into hawaii, but can you import liquefied coralline algae and liquified sponge? You can get these by the gallon at GARF. Put that into a vat full of rock, dose with Aragamilk and Purple-up, remove filtration for a few days and provide strong light, and your little rockfarm should be up and running.

[wetpetshawaii]

Those are very fat heniochus.....in the customers tank....they overfeed their fish I know because I maintain their tank every two weeks and theres so much food in there....but the fish are all fat and healthy...Aloha LP@WPH

Originally Posted by Ice

Awesome tank, wetpetshawaii ! Love the Moorish Idols in there !!

[jasno999]

Originally Posted by wetpetshawaii

hey no pilikia: (no peee leeee key a) means No problem guys Jasno 999 is probably just looking at it from the perspective that if everyone destructively takes things from the ocean, destroys reefs there will be nothing left for our children and grand children......I assure you Jasno999 that it is 100% illegal for us to break a single piece of coral off of the reef (even if a fish is hiding in it...we cant break the reef apart.....period or face heavy fines $$$ we have a list issued to us from the state with all the species,and scientific names of what we are allowed to catch, any fish size limitations,closed collecting areas,and what absolutely must never be caught or I risk having my lic/permits of my business taken away....I see where your coming from and I too want my children and grandchildren in the years to come to be able to enjoy our precious sea life.....the ornamental fish industry worldwide is a multi billion dollar industry together on the fresh and salt side.....Aloha

Thank you. You are the first person that gets it.

I am not sure why I am being attacked by some of the others like "Scuba Kid". I never said I knew all the laws. If you re-read my posts I am saying that everybody should look into their state laws, ordinances and such to find out what they can and can not take. I don't know all the specific laws in FL and every other state. However I do know there are regulations in place. For example the Tampa bay company that supplies live rock- they had limits on what they can collect from the wild on a daily basis and they need permits to do it. Now they have a system where they cultivate rock in the ocean and they can take more out.

Heck I know in NJ it is not legal to take sand from the beach.

My point is I know there are some regulations in place. They are there to protect the environment. Granted if 200 people in FL go to he beach and take a few things from it I bet not much will happen. However the mindset being portrayed is that this action is ok. And if it is ok for you then it is ok for me and for everybody else.... Therefore as prices of store purchased items go up more and more people will turn to the beach to get things for free... Nobody will think there is anything wrong in doing that and after a while you can run into a situation where the habitat is being decimated by people who are taking creatures out of it....

Really there is no reason to attack me. I am all for the reefs and the oceans. I want what is best for them and I want to make sure that as we do take items out of the ocean that it is done do in an orderly process with controls. That way we will not decimated any habitats and things will be around for years to come.....

[TheOldSalt]

Let me give you a piece of good advice that will serve you well in your years to come on internet message boards, jasno:

Don't start fires if you can't take the heat.

[gump] That's all I have to say about that. [/gump]

[Scuba Kid]

Hmm...

Posted by you in this thread:

Originally Posted by jasno999

YOu should not be takign things out of the water. It is illegal and there is a reason for that.

Posted by you in this thread: http://www.fishforums.com/forum/gene...reef-safe.html

Originally Posted by jasno999

Ha ha--

Kind of serves you right for taking something out of the ocean illegally......

Now I call you hypocritical.


By the way, collection by hobbyists should be the least of your worries in terms of ocean habitat destruction.

[Ichthius]

Jasno, I respect what you're trying to say. I get your point. Don't collect from the ocean/reefs illegally. But I personally feel that there was no reason to accuse or assume people were collecting illegally. I think you went about it wrong in the wrong place. The people who posted in this thread about collecting never even mentioned collecting reef parts/frags.

You went from saying "taking creatures" from their habitat in a vague way to saying that you meant destroying reefs illegally, which noone to my knowledge in this thread has done. If you're going to say something, stick to one story and know what you're talking about. Other people in this thread have done that well.

When you replied and quoted my initial post toward you, which I haven't commented on yet, you merely reiterated what you'd already said and didn't debunk anything I had said. It really had nothing to do with this thread; not having been about illegally collecting or collecting reef parts. I posted about collecting fish or the like, not about reefs. I understand the results of illegally taking from the reef. That's not what this was about. I understand the law. "YOu need to double check your states laws and look into the details" No, I really don't, I know my state laws, as do the people who posted and responded to this thread. Most of them anyway .

Don't accuse people. Don't assume. Post relavent information that doesn't accuse the OP of illegal activities. That was wrong . If you want to talk about illegally/legally taking from the ocean, make another thread about it. Don't jump on someone else's. Maybe now you'll understand why people have jumped on this topic so heavily.

[s13]

Guys I just picked up a sweet baby sea turtle at the beach today, I have it in the ol 20 gallon with all the hermits. I think he loves it! I have been feeding him chopped up hot dogs and hes doing great!



































JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JUST KIDDING OMG DONT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY

But on a serious note: lol.

[wetpetshawaii]

LOL you had me going.....ha ha ha

[Ice]

ROFLMAO !!! Don't tell me you got gullible already wetpetshawaii ... ROFLMAO !!!!

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Ichthius

Jasno, I respect what you're trying to say. I get your point. Don't collect from the ocean/reefs illegally. But I personally feel that there was no reason to accuse or assume people were collecting illegally. I think you went about it wrong in the wrong place. The people who posted in this thread about collecting never even mentioned collecting reef parts/frags.

You went from saying "taking creatures" from their habitat in a vague way to saying that you meant destroying reefs illegally, which noone to my knowledge in this thread has done. If you're going to say something, stick to one story and know what you're talking about. Other people in this thread have done that well.

When you replied and quoted my initial post toward you, which I haven't commented on yet, you merely reiterated what you'd already said and didn't debunk anything I had said. It really had nothing to do with this thread; not having been about illegally collecting or collecting reef parts. I posted about collecting fish or the like, not about reefs. I understand the results of illegally taking from the reef. That's not what this was about. I understand the law. "YOu need to double check your states laws and look into the details" No, I really don't, I know my state laws, as do the people who posted and responded to this thread. Most of them anyway .

Don't accuse people. Don't assume. Post relavent information that doesn't accuse the OP of illegal activities. That was wrong . If you want to talk about illegally/legally taking from the ocean, make another thread about it. Don't jump on someone else's. Maybe now you'll understand why people have jumped on this topic so heavily.

Well said !!

[wetpetshawaii]

you had me going for like three seconds.....you should have seen my face as I was reading.....WHAAAAAAAT A TURTLE!!! I see tons of those when Im diving but if we bother them we can go to jail.....that made me laugh....My fiance thought I was going crazy laughing at the computer....

[wetpetshawaii]

Todays catch....flounder,harlequin shrimp....and the flame wrasse male that got away(went through a hole in my net)......bummers!!!(oh I guess that does not fall into the todays catch catagory.....gotta start a new thred todays $100 mistake..LOL!!!

[Ice]

Hey wetpetshawaii - anymore catches since you last posted ?

[wetpetshawaii]

here ya go......have a safe Christmas and New year everyone!!!

mele kalikimaka e hou oli makahiki hou