Couple of my catches at the beach today

s13 · 11-19-2007, 07:16 PM

Hermit crab (with feather duster?)

Small hermit

Sea Hare

Other hermits

Another Sea Hare

Whatcha think?

flamingo · 11-19-2007, 08:35 PM

Nice

.
Where exactly are you located?

Btw, the "feather duster" is an anemone.

s13 · 11-19-2007, 08:40 PM

In the Panhandle of Florida. Those were caught in Pensacola. Yeah, I kinda figured that was an anemone after thinking about it. Thanks for the compliment!

flamingo · 11-19-2007, 08:55 PM

While I was down in Florida, I collected a few (well, 30) of that species of hermit. They would be trapped in big pockets of water in the middle of the day, along with a few fish

. Do you happen to get anything else?

And no problem!

s13 · 11-19-2007, 08:58 PM

The water was pretty rough today on the gulf side but in the bay, I just caught a couple snails, couple hermits, a small shrimp, and the sea hares. If I had some goggles on I would have had much better results but I don't have any goggles at the moment but now I know a couple good spots =] . Whenever I get some goggles and a green flag at the beach, I look forward to hitting up the gulf side for some arrow crabs, stone crabs, sea horses (probably just see them, not catch them because I do not have a tank set up for them nor know any specific care they need) ect...

fishbguy · 11-20-2007, 04:37 AM

looks good, I like the sea hares...lol

Reminds me of Cancun earlier this year....My cousin and I went out everyday to cout the tidal pools. we cought hundereds of hermits, mexican/zebra turbo snails, a little scooter blenny like fish, tons of brittle stars, queen conches, blue crabs, baby sergant majors, etc. even a really cool looking moray eel, almost like a snowflake, but it wasn't. we just saw him, didn't even try to catch him...lol

I like the crab with the anenome as well...it's kinda cute...lol

Ice · 11-20-2007, 07:40 AM

The sea hares won't survive long if they don't have enough beneficial algae to graze on. The hermits are cool - but be careful with some of them. They may not be reef safe and may get large. I was going to say that hermit has an anemone on his shell but someone beat me to it. Now watch your water parameters since you added new creatures from the ocean. But DO NOT return it to the wild where you found them. Nice catch though ...

s13 · 11-20-2007, 10:41 AM

All of the creatures in this 20 gallon tank are "local" fish that I caught in the wild. My friend has been keeping a couple sea hares for about 3 months now.

wetpetshawaii · 11-30-2007, 04:55 AM

we have similar anemone harmit crabs here in Hawaii.... we catch them in tidepools or on the reef when the tide is low....

jasno999 · 11-30-2007, 10:51 AM

YOu should not be takign things out of the water. It is illegal and there is a reason for that. If we let everybody do this the reef environments would be devestated by people taking creatures out of the habitat.

The worst part is if you are goign to do something like this then you should not broadcast it on a website..... the last hting you should do is put that in writting cause if you do get caught there is written proof that you took animals out of the ocean.........

trashion · 11-30-2007, 12:59 PM

agreed! i couldn't ethically reconcile the fact that i was taking something out of its native habitat to put in my tank. i try to avoid wild-caught fish species in my own tanks...

fishbguy · 11-30-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trashion

i try to avoid wild-caught fish species in my own tanks...

Says the person with 3 wild caught ottos in their tank....

Please people...We all know that it isn't a good idea, but I'm sure that they know the laws...

trashion · 11-30-2007, 01:17 PM

yeah, i learned that after i bought them...i actually have 5.

hence the "try."

though the fishery is supposed to only supply us with tank-raised...i should have known better than to trust them :\

s13 · 11-30-2007, 01:31 PM

Florida fishing and hunting license / collectors license.

**Ichthius** · 11-30-2007, 01:35 PM

Let's see...you need a simple fishing license to catch/keep fw fishes from property other than your own...people catch fish every day and eat them, mount them on a hunk of wood on the wall, or toss them back in the water. You need a sw fishing license to catch/keep fish from the ocean. People also catch, eat, and mount sw fish on a hunk of wood on their wall every day

.

This is how we get fish to begin with...the wild. This is how we learn about fish...the wild. This is how we can preserve species and observe them for the future when far worse things could happen to their environments...the wild. I'm not for capturing endangered fish or the like, but what if you can successfully breed them to release back? The hermits you get in fish stores are just as likely to have been caught in the same way.

So, my point, I don't believe it is illegal, least not where I am, and I don't think s13 would ignore the laws of his/her state and broadcast it publically. I think it's far worse to pointlessly hunt/fish animals than to keep them alive for personal education and possibly doing good in the future with them. We have all kept wild caught fish. We do a lot more damage to the environment in other ways every day

.

s13, nice, great pics

leveldrummer · 11-30-2007, 02:14 PM

its legal to collect in certain coasts, but there are limits, last i heard there are no sources of captive bred hermit crabs, so everyone that you buy is wild caught. keep it friendly and learn your laws before attacking people on an open forum, because as you said, its in writing.

wetpetshawaii · 12-01-2007, 07:45 AM

commercial marine licence.....state of Hawaii.....it allows me to collect listed species(allowable by the state) and sell to the aquarium trade....Hermit crabs do not breed in captivity.....so there are no captive bred hermits....especially with an anemone...thanks for the concern though...aloha!!!

Ice · 12-01-2007, 04:37 PM

An interesting question to you wetpetshawaii : You mentioned hermit crabs with anemones on the shells. Do they need proper lighting as you would for an anemone ? Also I've seen crabs with anemones on their backs or claws as well. Curious because they do look cool and might be on my wish list for a future SW tank.

wetpetshawaii · 12-02-2007, 07:21 AM

not at all.....they do not require any speacial lighting...kept anemone hermits for years in a nano tank with no lighting at all.....its sooooo cool one night I was watching this one anemone hermit changing its shell to the one I dropped into the tank...I hand painted my sons nome on the shell and thought it would be cool to have a hermit live in a shell with a custom paint job LOL!!! anyways it worked...I saw it checking out the shell one night trying it on for size...struggled to stay awake and watch it....it took a whole 40 minutes but the hermit decided to make his move....and he did.. to our customized shell....oh and you know whats the cool part....it went back to its old shell and with its pinchers gently peeled off the amemones and stuck them on his new shell....(covered up my custom paint job with the anemone) bummers...LOL but it was cool to watch the whole thing happen....wish I had a video cam that night.....anyways the next low tide is in about two weeks....I can collect them for you....just pay the shipping (fed ex) $25 and maybe kick in a little extra for gas money and I will ship as many as you need right to your door........take care...A hui hio kakou (till we meet again)

Ice · 12-02-2007, 07:57 AM

Wow ! That is cool ! One last question : are they reef safe ?

11-19-2007, 07:16 PM	#1
s13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 119 User Feedback: (0)	Couple of my catches at the beach today Hermit crab (with feather duster?) Small hermit Sea Hare Other hermits Another Sea Hare Whatcha think?

11-19-2007, 08:35 PM	#2
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 16 Posts: 1,892 User Feedback: (2)	Nice . Where exactly are you located? Btw, the "feather duster" is an anemone. __________________ Color exists only in the mind. . Am I only a thought?

11-19-2007, 08:55 PM	#4
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 16 Posts: 1,892 User Feedback: (2)	While I was down in Florida, I collected a few (well, 30) of that species of hermit. They would be trapped in big pockets of water in the middle of the day, along with a few fish . Do you happen to get anything else? And no problem! __________________ Color exists only in the mind. . Am I only a thought?

11-20-2007, 04:37 AM	#6
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,774 User Feedback: (2)	looks good, I like the sea hares...lol Reminds me of Cancun earlier this year....My cousin and I went out everyday to cout the tidal pools. we cought hundereds of hermits, mexican/zebra turbo snails, a little scooter blenny like fish, tons of brittle stars, queen conches, blue crabs, baby sergant majors, etc. even a really cool looking moray eel, almost like a snowflake, but it wasn't. we just saw him, didn't even try to catch him...lol I like the crab with the anenome as well...it's kinda cute...lol __________________ She went away, she cut me like a knife Hello beautiful thing, maybe you could save my life In just a glance, down here on magic street Loves a fool's dance And I ain't got much sense, but I still got my feet The girls in their summer clothes In the cool of the evening light The girls in their summer clothes, pass me by

11-20-2007, 10:41 AM	#8
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11-19-2007, 08:40 PM	#3
s13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 119 User Feedback: (0)	In the Panhandle of Florida. Those were caught in Pensacola. Yeah, I kinda figured that was an anemone after thinking about it. Thanks for the compliment!

11-19-2007, 08:58 PM	#5
s13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 119 User Feedback: (0)	The water was pretty rough today on the gulf side but in the bay, I just caught a couple snails, couple hermits, a small shrimp, and the sea hares. If I had some goggles on I would have had much better results but I don't have any goggles at the moment but now I know a couple good spots =] . Whenever I get some goggles and a green flag at the beach, I look forward to hitting up the gulf side for some arrow crabs, stone crabs, sea horses (probably just see them, not catch them because I do not have a tank set up for them nor know any specific care they need) ect...

11-20-2007, 07:40 AM	#7
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 502 User Feedback: (0)	The sea hares won't survive long if they don't have enough beneficial algae to graze on. The hermits are cool - but be careful with some of them. They may not be reef safe and may get large. I was going to say that hermit has an anemone on his shell but someone beat me to it. Now watch your water parameters since you added new creatures from the ocean. But DO NOT return it to the wild where you found them. Nice catch though ...

11-30-2007, 04:55 AM	#9
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74 User Feedback: (0)	we have similar anemone harmit crabs here in Hawaii.... we catch them in tidepools or on the reef when the tide is low.... Attached Images

11-30-2007, 10:51 AM	#10
jasno999 Aquarium Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA - PA Age: 29 Posts: 81 User Feedback: (0)	YOu should not be takign things out of the water. It is illegal and there is a reason for that. If we let everybody do this the reef environments would be devestated by people taking creatures out of the habitat. The worst part is if you are goign to do something like this then you should not broadcast it on a website..... the last hting you should do is put that in writting cause if you do get caught there is written proof that you took animals out of the ocean......... __________________ Here Fishy Fishy Current Tanks: 10 Gallon FW Livebearer tank 10 Gallon SW Nano-Type Reef 29 Gallon FW Mixed Tank

11-30-2007, 12:59 PM	#11
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 873 User Feedback: (0)	agreed! i couldn't ethically reconcile the fact that i was taking something out of its native habitat to put in my tank. i try to avoid wild-caught fish species in my own tanks... __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

11-30-2007, 01:17 PM	#13
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 873 User Feedback: (0)	yeah, i learned that after i bought them...i actually have 5. hence the "try." though the fishery is supposed to only supply us with tank-raised...i should have known better than to trust them :\ __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie Last edited by trashion; 11-30-2007 at 01:20 PM.

11-30-2007, 01:31 PM	#14
s13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 119 User Feedback: (0)	Florida fishing and hunting license / collectors license. __________________

11-30-2007, 01:35 PM	#15
Ichthius Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 18 Posts: 633 User Feedback: (2)	Let's see...you need a simple fishing license to catch/keep fw fishes from property other than your own...people catch fish every day and eat them, mount them on a hunk of wood on the wall, or toss them back in the water. You need a sw fishing license to catch/keep fish from the ocean. People also catch, eat, and mount sw fish on a hunk of wood on their wall every day . This is how we get fish to begin with...the wild. This is how we learn about fish...the wild. This is how we can preserve species and observe them for the future when far worse things could happen to their environments...the wild. I'm not for capturing endangered fish or the like, but what if you can successfully breed them to release back? The hermits you get in fish stores are just as likely to have been caught in the same way. So, my point, I don't believe it is illegal, least not where I am, and I don't think s13 would ignore the laws of his/her state and broadcast it publically. I think it's far worse to pointlessly hunt/fish animals than to keep them alive for personal education and possibly doing good in the future with them. We have all kept wild caught fish. We do a lot more damage to the environment in other ways every day . s13, nice, great pics __________________ - Leah - Last edited by Ichthius; 11-30-2007 at 01:38 PM.

11-30-2007, 02:14 PM	#16
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933 User Feedback: (1)	its legal to collect in certain coasts, but there are limits, last i heard there are no sources of captive bred hermit crabs, so everyone that you buy is wild caught. keep it friendly and learn your laws before attacking people on an open forum, because as you said, its in writing. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

12-01-2007, 07:45 AM	#17
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74 User Feedback: (0)	commercial marine licence.....state of Hawaii.....it allows me to collect listed species(allowable by the state) and sell to the aquarium trade....Hermit crabs do not breed in captivity.....so there are no captive bred hermits....especially with an anemone...thanks for the concern though...aloha!!!

12-01-2007, 04:37 PM	#18
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 502 User Feedback: (0)	An interesting question to you wetpetshawaii : You mentioned hermit crabs with anemones on the shells. Do they need proper lighting as you would for an anemone ? Also I've seen crabs with anemones on their backs or claws as well. Curious because they do look cool and might be on my wish list for a future SW tank.

12-02-2007, 07:21 AM	#19
wetpetshawaii fin-addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 74 User Feedback: (0)	not at all.....they do not require any speacial lighting...kept anemone hermits for years in a nano tank with no lighting at all.....its sooooo cool one night I was watching this one anemone hermit changing its shell to the one I dropped into the tank...I hand painted my sons nome on the shell and thought it would be cool to have a hermit live in a shell with a custom paint job LOL!!! anyways it worked...I saw it checking out the shell one night trying it on for size...struggled to stay awake and watch it....it took a whole 40 minutes but the hermit decided to make his move....and he did.. to our customized shell....oh and you know whats the cool part....it went back to its old shell and with its pinchers gently peeled off the amemones and stuck them on his new shell....(covered up my custom paint job with the anemone) bummers...LOL but it was cool to watch the whole thing happen....wish I had a video cam that night.....anyways the next low tide is in about two weeks....I can collect them for you....just pay the shipping (fed ex) $25 and maybe kick in a little extra for gas money and I will ship as many as you need right to your door........take care...A hui hio kakou (till we meet again)

12-02-2007, 07:57 AM	#20
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 502 User Feedback: (0)	Wow ! That is cool ! One last question : are they reef safe ?

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