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Old 12-29-2007, 11:07 AM   #1
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ok. this is going to be a thread about me venturing into sw with my 29 gallon. i dont have much to work with now, but soon i will be getting the lighting and glass canopy.this is what i have so far:http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...azy101/017.jpg
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:08 AM   #2
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sorry for the inconvienience, but my files r to large for the forum, so just click the link plaese and thankyou.
p.s. the tank will be moved to a different location and on a properstand very soon
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:59 AM   #3
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Looking cool, have any plans fish wise yet?
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:30 PM   #4
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yup. -2 occelaris clowns
-1 firefish
-either a fridmani, strawberry, or bicolor pseudochromis
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most psuedo's are mean, and might be the heck out of the firefish.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:03 PM   #6
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That's a 20g tall, correct?
Since that's all you have so far (no lighting yet or anything?) I would strongly suggest you go with at 20g long. That might not be possible if you DO Have lighting, or a stand, but you will be much happier with a 20g long in the long run.
I guess it's in large part personal preference, but I went with a 28g bowfront. I love that it's a bowfront, but it's dimensions are similar to a 20g tall (two feet wide, 18" tall), and if I could re-do it, I would go with something wide and short. Mainly because less light goes further on a shorter tank. If your budget is unlimited then it doesn't matter, but if you're restricting yourself to some power compacts or something, then corals in a shallow tank will do much better under that light, and be brighter coloured... and tank will just look brighter. However it means getting a wider fixture.

Also, a wider tank is (IMO) easier to aquascape with live rock, and you have more room for corals and fish and ground stuff. One of my regrets is that I don't have much actual ground space - so I don't have room for brains or anything that I'd like to have.


Oh, and go with a Royal Gramma instead of a bicolor pseudo. As the other person mentioned, pseudos are usually aggressive, so if you love the bicolor pseudo, then it would be best off by itself. Oh... it might work out fine, but if you go with two clowns, one firefish,and one pseudo or royal gramma, all those fish are sort of open swimmers (the pseudo/gramma and firefish will keep to the rocks, but they're not ground dwellers). In a 20g tall, that's a lot of fish swimming in the same area. Don't overlook gobies / blennies they will occupy a whole other area of your tank and are full of personnality.
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That's a 20g tall, correct?
Looks like a standard 29 gallon to me which matches the length of a 20L.

royal gramma is always a good choice but make sure to either introduce it to the tank at the same time as your firefish or after. If you have the royal gramma in the tank before the firefish you will not see the firefish much for the royal gramma will bully it.

On a different note, you might want to look at useing a sump/refugium as well. Great way to add some water volume to your system, great place to grow your macro algae, and a great place to hide your heater and protein skimmer. If your tank glass isn't tempared you can have it drilled which would make things eaiser.

Anyways that is just my few thoughts. Look around on this forum and other forums to see how others hobbiest have their tank set up.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:49 PM   #8
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Woops - for some reason I saw "20" and not "29". My bad
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:51 PM   #9
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hmm, royal grama sounds nice. thnx guys. wud i pt firefish and gramma in first, or clownfish?(and i want to get a sump, but its just not an option for me)
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Put the firefish in first, and the gramma last.
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:19 PM   #11
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thats what i was tinking, but one thing to consider is that the occelaris i get r like .75 inches long. o, and i decided im probably getting a purple firefish, probably
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #12
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so i got my lighting yesterday, and it rocks. its 24inch T5HO hagen glo series.sorry i cant post pics, but i dont have a camera for 2 weeks. but ill take somepics as soon as i can
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:03 PM   #13
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FOUND MY CAMERA!heres some pics of my new lights








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Old 01-15-2008, 05:48 AM   #14
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did someone step in your tank because it looks like a kids footprint in the first pic and kinda see it on the third lol. Nice light tho
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:52 PM   #15
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did someone step in your tank because it looks like a kids footprint in the first pic and kinda see it on the third lol. Nice light tho
haha, no. its just dusty in there :P but u know, my rooms messy. thats just how i role:P thats just me
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Old 03-16-2008, 11:29 AM   #16
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sorry,its been forever since ive last posted on this thread. well, im pretty sure what i want for stocking is a pseudochromis fridmani, 2 occ. clowns, and either a midas blenny or maybe a prawn goby or a yashia goby OR a watchman goby with a shrimp symbiosis. sound good?

o and whats a good shrimp for a watchamn goby to symosise with?
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Old 03-16-2008, 05:51 PM   #17
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Psuedos are pretty agressive, I would go with the royal gramma idea you had earlier. And Ive heard the watchmans will chill with marine cleaner shrimp.

BTW- kickass lighting.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #18
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hehe. i know. me likey. and i got it like right before i started seeing it everywhere too.

um,ya pseudos are aggresive but moslty only to there own kind(as kindley pointed out by flamingo aka dylanana)
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:25 PM   #19
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ok, so the overflow box i want is this one:http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...ct~CR1511.html
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ok, so the overflow box i want is this one:http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...ct~CR1511.html
Stay away form that. I have heard too many horror stories. Just use a basic overflow with u-tube like this one at forster and smith. You will have no troubles with loosing siphon.
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