Fish Combonation

Unclefahaka · 02-02-2005, 06:27 PM

I recently purchased a Jebo 362 R series. I am thinking once i get the fish tank cycled that I could put a porcupine Pufferfish with a Mandarinfish. The mandarinfish has a coy'ish nature. I know freshwater puffers are agressive. I was told by the lfs fella that saltwater puffers are a lot less agressive. I have seen at many lfs that they have a porcupine puffer with other fish like its nothing.

Thanks,

Justin

**Fishfirst** · 02-02-2005, 06:58 PM

well I don't think you should do that... a mandarin fish is very sensitive... even a little aggression can kill it...

hail_sniper · 02-02-2005, 09:32 PM

and mandarins have a very high death rate in tanks, especially new ones, a mandarin can surely out swim the puffer but the mess the puffer will create i really dont reccommend it, check out melevsreef.com for more info on sw and some article on mandarins

redpaulhus · 02-03-2005, 12:24 PM

Thats approximately a 27g tank (at least according to the sizes on the Jebo website) -- WAY too small for either a porky puffer (Diodon holacanthus - they get big, over a foot long easily) or a mandarin (they need about 100lbs of well seeded liverock to provide enough food) in my opinion...

You may want to pick up a good book like Scott Michaels Pocket Guide to 500 Reef Fishes - it contains the min tank size and relative ease-of-care of most fish you will see in a LFS.

Then either a) decide which fishes you want and build a tank with them in mind or b) find fishes that will be appropriate for your tank.

**Fishfirst** · 02-03-2005, 12:39 PM

wow thanks for looking that up!!!!!!! YEAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOOOOOOOO SMALL! Both species should have around 75-100 gallons!

**Fishfirst** · 02-03-2005, 12:47 PM

Mandarin fish aren't big but they need a lot of live rock to eat pods from... which means around 125 gallons

fishgfish · 02-03-2005, 06:24 PM

the mandarins need large reefs and you can't keep puffers in reefs they will eat everything. not a good choice.

BlueAmbist · 02-04-2005, 05:23 AM

I agree with the above, we go threw mandarins at the LFS like there nothing, why the boss orders them is beyond me, we get a few that are doing excellent in our seahorse tank, they are being fed adult brine, nice and fat little guys, but most mandarins don't live too long because of not having an established tank.

fishgfish · 02-04-2005, 08:42 PM

In my shop, I do not sell mandarins to costumers with out large mature reef. I have a mated pair in my display reef, All mandarines have to be sprecial ordered for each costumer.

BlueAmbist · 02-05-2005, 11:55 AM

Sounds like a smart move! Nice to see such a young guy already haveing a business etc! Where are you located?

fishgfish · 02-05-2005, 05:10 PM

new york state

02-02-2005, 06:27 PM	#1
Unclefahaka Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	Fish Combonation I recently purchased a Jebo 362 R series. I am thinking once i get the fish tank cycled that I could put a porcupine Pufferfish with a Mandarinfish. The mandarinfish has a coy'ish nature. I know freshwater puffers are agressive. I was told by the lfs fella that saltwater puffers are a lot less agressive. I have seen at many lfs that they have a porcupine puffer with other fish like its nothing. Thanks, Justin

02-02-2005, 06:58 PM	#2
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,645 Blog Entries: 4	well I don't think you should do that... a mandarin fish is very sensitive... even a little aggression can kill it... __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

02-02-2005, 09:32 PM	#3
hail_sniper The Frugal Reefer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Downey, Ca Posts: 195	Re: Fish Combonation and mandarins have a very high death rate in tanks, especially new ones, a mandarin can surely out swim the puffer but the mess the puffer will create i really dont reccommend it, check out melevsreef.com for more info on sw and some article on mandarins __________________ Sam H. Member of MASLAC 30gal reef 90gal planning

02-03-2005, 12:24 PM	#4
redpaulhus fishgeek Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston Age: 38 Posts: 478	Thats approximately a 27g tank (at least according to the sizes on the Jebo website) -- WAY too small for either a porky puffer (Diodon holacanthus - they get big, over a foot long easily) or a mandarin (they need about 100lbs of well seeded liverock to provide enough food) in my opinion... You may want to pick up a good book like Scott Michaels Pocket Guide to 500 Reef Fishes - it contains the min tank size and relative ease-of-care of most fish you will see in a LFS. Then either a) decide which fishes you want and build a tank with them in mind or b) find fishes that will be appropriate for your tank. __________________ -------------------- Just "Red" (Paulhus is my lastname )

02-03-2005, 12:39 PM	#5
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,645 Blog Entries: 4	wow thanks for looking that up!!!!!!! YEAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOOOOOOOO SMALL! Both species should have around 75-100 gallons! __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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02-03-2005, 12:47 PM	#6
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,645 Blog Entries: 4	Mandarin fish aren't big but they need a lot of live rock to eat pods from... which means around 125 gallons

02-03-2005, 06:24 PM	#7
fishgfish Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: rochester Posts: 55	the mandarins need large reefs and you can't keep puffers in reefs they will eat everything. not a good choice.

02-04-2005, 05:23 AM	#8
BlueAmbist Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37	I agree with the above, we go threw mandarins at the LFS like there nothing, why the boss orders them is beyond me, we get a few that are doing excellent in our seahorse tank, they are being fed adult brine, nice and fat little guys, but most mandarins don't live too long because of not having an established tank.

02-04-2005, 08:42 PM	#9
fishgfish Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: rochester Posts: 55	In my shop, I do not sell mandarins to costumers with out large mature reef. I have a mated pair in my display reef, All mandarines have to be sprecial ordered for each costumer.

02-05-2005, 11:55 AM	#10
BlueAmbist Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37	Sounds like a smart move! Nice to see such a young guy already haveing a business etc! Where are you located?

02-05-2005, 05:10 PM	#11
fishgfish Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: rochester Posts: 55	new york state

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