gph (gallons per hour) for 30-gallon tank?

TomRoach · 07-08-2008, 07:38 AM

Hi, I have four one-year-old wild goldfish in a 10-gallon tank. I'm moving them into a 30-gallon tank. I bought the AquaClear filter for 40 to 70 gallons because the woman at the pet store insisted I over-filter this 30-gallon tank for the goldfish. **The filter is rated at 300 gph (gallons per hour)** Is this too much or just right? Thank you everyone in advance!

-Tom

tenaj-6 · 07-08-2008, 07:50 AM

id say that should be ok. ul need the extra power because goldfish are messy eaters.

**Scuba Kid** · 07-08-2008, 08:43 AM

Wild goldfish, eh? They get huge and your 30 gallon tank won't last them too long. You're going to need a HUGE tank for four wild goldfish or a pond.

To answer your question, that filter is fine.

TomRoach · 07-09-2008, 12:00 AM

Thanks for your replies. Do you suggest a 37-gallon tank, then? I can't really do much more, such as 55-gallon at this time, due to space requirements of not having my own place yet. I was also considering returning the unopened AquaClear 70 filter and purchasing an Eheim, *or* using an Eheim propeller gear shaft in my AquaClear filter (I've read you can put the Eheim part into the AquaClear filter so it is nearly silent)--true?

Thanks,
Tom

joe kool · 07-09-2008, 03:13 AM

might look at different fish then. Maybe something that stays under a couple inches or so adult size and a small group. 300 GPH is what I would call minimum filtration but I do african cichlids. I run the AC 110 on my 30 gal. 2 on my 55 and run a mag 350 and a sump filter flowing about 1100 gph on my 100 gal when it's up and running.

FishHead · 07-09-2008, 06:54 AM

Are the wild goldfish you speak of comets, koi, shubunkins?

**Scuba Kid** · 07-09-2008, 10:19 AM

They're just wild goldfish. All goldfish are the same species, the different kinds are just different breeds. (except you mentioned koi, which aren't goldfish. Just related).
They're just ugly goldfish, really, that get very large. Most don't have very pretty coloration...usually just a drab bronze color.
If you release any kind of goldfish, the offspring will eventually turn into a standard, ugly goldfish. That's why the US has a problem with wild goldfish, actually. They were released and started reproducing and flourishing.

FishHead · 07-09-2008, 11:23 AM

thanks Scuba. I never heard that term before.

**lohachata** · 07-12-2008, 08:34 PM

and the whole danged bunch of em are nothing more than mutated carp.........

**Scuba Kid** · 07-13-2008, 05:03 PM

Yeah, but many of them are dang pretty.

I'm not a huge fan of the bubble-eye, fantail, lion head, double fin, swimming golf ball varieties, but I do love koi, shubunkins, and comets (sarasas especially).

FishHead · 07-14-2008, 07:18 AM

I love my lionheads and my black moor.

07-08-2008, 07:38 AM	#1
TomRoach Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13	gph (gallons per hour) for 30-gallon tank? Hi, I have four one-year-old wild goldfish in a 10-gallon tank. I'm moving them into a 30-gallon tank. I bought the AquaClear filter for 40 to 70 gallons because the woman at the pet store insisted I over-filter this 30-gallon tank for the goldfish. The filter is rated at 300 gph (gallons per hour) Is this too much or just right? Thank you everyone in advance! -Tom

07-08-2008, 08:43 AM	#3
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,219	Wild goldfish, eh? They get huge and your 30 gallon tank won't last them too long. You're going to need a HUGE tank for four wild goldfish or a pond. To answer your question, that filter is fine. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-09-2008, 03:13 AM	#5
joe kool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 572	might look at different fish then. Maybe something that stays under a couple inches or so adult size and a small group. 300 GPH is what I would call minimum filtration but I do african cichlids. I run the AC 110 on my 30 gal. 2 on my 55 and run a mag 350 and a sump filter flowing about 1100 gph on my 100 gal when it's up and running. __________________ A conglomeration of cichlids from all over living happily in my "melting pot" of tanks. Breeding: currently nothing ... I'm sequestered in South Korea, "Osan" to be exact 2 days till I'm back in the states!!!! Florida to be exact, those Floridians have no idea what they're in for!! current Fry: see above tanks: 100, 55, 46 BF, 26 BF, 20L, 5 fry tank 20L planted with CRS is the only thing up (easy for the wife to care for in my stead)

07-09-2008, 06:54 AM	#6
FishHead What are you looking at? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 28 Posts: 593	Are the wild goldfish you speak of comets, koi, shubunkins? __________________ 13 barbs (4x tigers, 2x greens, 3 odessas, 4 albino) 5 australian rainbowfish 4 buenos aires tetras 1 angelic pim catfish 1 pictus catfish 1 Spotted Hifin pleco 2 opaline gouramis 2 blue gouramis 5 panda cories 1 red tail shark 9 cherry barbs 2 Lionhead goldfish 1 black moor (saved from walmart) 7 peppered cories 3 swordtails 1 bristlenose pleco

07-09-2008, 10:19 AM	#7
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,219	They're just wild goldfish. All goldfish are the same species, the different kinds are just different breeds. (except you mentioned koi, which aren't goldfish. Just related). They're just ugly goldfish, really, that get very large. Most don't have very pretty coloration...usually just a drab bronze color. If you release any kind of goldfish, the offspring will eventually turn into a standard, ugly goldfish. That's why the US has a problem with wild goldfish, actually. They were released and started reproducing and flourishing. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks Last edited by Scuba Kid; 07-09-2008 at 10:21 AM.

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07-08-2008, 07:50 AM	#2
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 90	id say that should be ok. ul need the extra power because goldfish are messy eaters.

07-09-2008, 12:00 AM	#4
TomRoach Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13	Thanks for your replies. Do you suggest a 37-gallon tank, then? I can't really do much more, such as 55-gallon at this time, due to space requirements of not having my own place yet. I was also considering returning the unopened AquaClear 70 filter and purchasing an Eheim, or using an Eheim propeller gear shaft in my AquaClear filter (I've read you can put the Eheim part into the AquaClear filter so it is nearly silent)--true? Thanks, Tom

07-09-2008, 11:23 AM	#8
FishHead What are you looking at? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 28 Posts: 593	thanks Scuba. I never heard that term before. __________________ 13 barbs (4x tigers, 2x greens, 3 odessas, 4 albino) 5 australian rainbowfish 4 buenos aires tetras 1 angelic pim catfish 1 pictus catfish 1 Spotted Hifin pleco 2 opaline gouramis 2 blue gouramis 5 panda cories 1 red tail shark 9 cherry barbs 2 Lionhead goldfish 1 black moor (saved from walmart) 7 peppered cories 3 swordtails 1 bristlenose pleco

07-12-2008, 08:34 PM	#9
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 529	and the whole danged bunch of em are nothing more than mutated carp......... __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-13-2008, 05:03 PM	#10
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,219	Yeah, but many of them are dang pretty. I'm not a huge fan of the bubble-eye, fantail, lion head, double fin, swimming golf ball varieties, but I do love koi, shubunkins, and comets (sarasas especially). __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-14-2008, 07:18 AM	#11
FishHead What are you looking at? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 28 Posts: 593	I love my lionheads and my black moor. __________________ 13 barbs (4x tigers, 2x greens, 3 odessas, 4 albino) 5 australian rainbowfish 4 buenos aires tetras 1 angelic pim catfish 1 pictus catfish 1 Spotted Hifin pleco 2 opaline gouramis 2 blue gouramis 5 panda cories 1 red tail shark 9 cherry barbs 2 Lionhead goldfish 1 black moor (saved from walmart) 7 peppered cories 3 swordtails 1 bristlenose pleco

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