Guppy birthmother question

Daeorn · 11-30-2007, 01:12 PM

Nother question:

Does the birth mother usually die after giving birth? I have now set up a smaller fish bowl with a 5gal airstone in it for raising my fry... but I just had two females give birth in the 2 way breeders and they died.

Is there any way to increase female survival rate? Is this normal?

emc7 · 11-30-2007, 01:28 PM

Not normal, but not uncommon.

**Ichthius** · 11-30-2007, 02:03 PM

Sometimes the mothers die from improper care during pregnancy, e.g. improper nutrition. But, in some cases, it's not your fault. The mother could have been a poorly bred fish herself.

To increase the survival rate, give her the best care possible: less stress, nutrient rich varied diet, and of course a clean aquarium.

**TheOldSalt** · 12-01-2007, 07:56 AM

In many cases it's the little breeder trap to blame. A fishymomma left by herself in a 10 gallon tanks full of bushy plants will usually live, as will the fry, while the mothers in those little cages don't do as well. They hold the fry in as long as they physically can, you see, looking for a good spot to drop them. They see no good reason to drop them in the little baskets, and sometimes when they have to they spazz out and croak. Diet and other general conditions also play a big part in it.

Daeorn · 12-03-2007, 05:20 PM

Gotcha.

They are fed right now a combination of tetra tropical flakes, and both freeze dried and frozen blood worms.

New borns are fed new hatched brine shrimp, frozen brine shrimp and later crushed flakes until bigger.

Yeah, they're all dropping in the breeder. If I have a 20gal, with about 6 males and 14 females, heavily planted... should I just let nature take its course, then when I see the fry remove them?

I want to maximize caught baby fry.

ASmileForOnlyU · 01-02-2008, 11:03 PM

Yeah everytime I ever used the breeder "trap", my momma's dropped and then died, and the fry were usually a tad too premature, so all of them died too, but now that I've got a 10 gallon heavily planted tank and let nature do its way, I have yet to lose a momma and have recovered fry that have not been eaten :]

Kribensis12 · 01-05-2008, 05:53 PM

I have oly had problem's with molllies in breeding trap's. The die 95%of the time on me in ther. I bought a heavily pregnant black molly today and put her in my quarentine/fry tank. She has almost no chances of aborting in there, or dieing. But it all dpepends
on the age/size/experince of the mother fish.

11-30-2007, 01:12 PM	#1
Daeorn Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 78	Guppy birthmother question Nother question: Does the birth mother usually die after giving birth? I have now set up a smaller fish bowl with a 5gal airstone in it for raising my fry... but I just had two females give birth in the 2 way breeders and they died. Is there any way to increase female survival rate? Is this normal?

11-30-2007, 02:03 PM	#3
Ichthius Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Age: 18 Posts: 943	Sometimes the mothers die from improper care during pregnancy, e.g. improper nutrition. But, in some cases, it's not your fault. The mother could have been a poorly bred fish herself. To increase the survival rate, give her the best care possible: less stress, nutrient rich varied diet, and of course a clean aquarium. __________________ - Leah - Aquarium Blog ><(((*>

01-02-2008, 11:03 PM	#6
ASmileForOnlyU Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Tennessee Age: 19 Posts: 73	Yeah everytime I ever used the breeder "trap", my momma's dropped and then died, and the fry were usually a tad too premature, so all of them died too, but now that I've got a 10 gallon heavily planted tank and let nature do its way, I have yet to lose a momma and have recovered fry that have not been eaten :] __________________ 55 Gallon: 7 Danios 5 Tiger Barbs 2 Black/Yellow Neon Tetra 2 Black Skirt Tetra 2 White Skirt Tetra 2 Spotted Cory 2 Red Wag Male Platy 1 Dwarf Puffer 1 Opaline Gourami 1 Pleco 1 YoYo Loach 1 Chinese Algae Eater 1 S American Bumblebee Catfish 1 Female Golden Snail 1 Ghost Shrimp 20 Gallon: 6 Guppy (2 M, 4 F) 4 Platy (2 M, 2 F) 1 Male Black Mystery Snail 10 Gallon: 80+ Black Mystery/Golden Snail Babies 1 Young Male Guppy 1 Fry: Female Platy Other: 6 Cats 1 Fiance

01-05-2008, 05:53 PM	#7
Kribensis12 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 15 Posts: 109	I have oly had problem's with molllies in breeding trap's. The die 95%of the time on me in ther. I bought a heavily pregnant black molly today and put her in my quarentine/fry tank. She has almost no chances of aborting in there, or dieing. But it all dpepends on the age/size/experince of the mother fish. __________________ My tank's: 30g tank: 1 angelfish 1 Fancy Guppies 2 Zebra Danio's 2 Black Mollies 2 Dalmation Mollies 3 platies ( 5 baby green sailfin mollies and 2 guppies in a breeder, being feed BBS daily) 20g Flat Hexagon 1 baby guppy 1 baby swordtail 1 Baby half black striped angelfish( 4 inches tall) 10g: 1 baby half black striped angelfish( 4 inches tall) 1 baby mickey mouse swordtail several baby guppies 1 baby mollie

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11-30-2007, 01:28 PM	#2
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,272	Not normal, but not uncommon.

12-01-2007, 07:56 AM	#4
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,354	In many cases it's the little breeder trap to blame. A fishymomma left by herself in a 10 gallon tanks full of bushy plants will usually live, as will the fry, while the mothers in those little cages don't do as well. They hold the fry in as long as they physically can, you see, looking for a good spot to drop them. They see no good reason to drop them in the little baskets, and sometimes when they have to they spazz out and croak. Diet and other general conditions also play a big part in it.

12-03-2007, 05:20 PM	#5
Daeorn Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 78	Gotcha. They are fed right now a combination of tetra tropical flakes, and both freeze dried and frozen blood worms. New borns are fed new hatched brine shrimp, frozen brine shrimp and later crushed flakes until bigger. Yeah, they're all dropping in the breeder. If I have a 20gal, with about 6 males and 14 females, heavily planted... should I just let nature take its course, then when I see the fry remove them? I want to maximize caught baby fry.

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