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Old 02-28-2008, 09:05 PM   #21
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a feeder fish is a fish you feed to larger fish.i do water changes every week.what are crystal red shrimp?how much do they cost?are they hardy?how big d they get?i was looking to put 3 guppies in the tank but now im thinking about puting my 3-way breeder in there and my pregnant fish.after the moms give birth i will put them back into my main tank.if the shrimp wont eat my fry and the fry wont eat my shrimp i will be glad to put them in there.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:11 PM   #22
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I wouldn't add too much to that tank...Shrimp alone would be ok. I think whoever said crystal red shrimp meant red cherry shrimp. Crystals are harder to breed and more sensitive than red cherry shrimp.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:56 PM   #23
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Ok...I'm sorry but I was just reading through this forum...As I read I see you continue to ask questions yet when you get answers (good answers, might I add) you just kind of ignore them. If I were you I would be nicer to these guys they have more experience than you and are only trying to help.

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:10 AM   #24
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i do read them and i said thanks for all your help on one reply.you probly thought i ment for that one person and i ment everybody!i was just wondering because my fry are the only ones that are going to be in the exept for the breeder.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:59 AM   #25
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Like I said in another post....use the search engine on this site, or google, because mostquestions about livebearers have proly been asked before, and have been answered.

We have already answered you....we wouldn't put any fish in that tank other than small killies, some least killifish, shrimp, etc. but you don't seem to be reading them, because you continually ask the same question over and over again.

Breeding fish is not an easy thing to do. You often need a pretty large tank, lots of food, including livefoods, in some species, their water condidtions need to be next to perfect, and after all that, you have to try to find a true pair, and that can be hard in alot of fish species. And, even after all this, you still might have trouble getting them to breed. It's not as easy as throwing a group of fish in a tank that is too small for them....it's just not. So I suggest that you go onto yahoo, google, the search tool on this site, the something, and type in your questions there instead of all of them at once here. I for one am having alot of trouble trying to read your posts, much less determining what your questions are.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:17 AM   #26
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Feeder fish are also usually goldfish, which grow over a foot long and live 40+ years if you take care of them properly.

Whoever told you 20 would be fine needs to have their head examined.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:40 AM   #27
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feeder guppies.thats what i ment,sorrytha tank is up and running and has great water conditions!it is large enough for my fry and apparently YOU FISHBGUY need to read the the replies because i said i was going to put my heavily pregnant females and fry in the tank!!!
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Whatever...but your still going to be needing a bigger tank, because with multiple females, all about to burst, is going to be ALOT of fry...and they don't stay small forever. You'll eventually(within a month or so) upgrade, because with so many fry in a small tank, it's going to get polluted very quickly.
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:21 PM   #29
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"i said i was going to put my heavily pregnant females and fry in the tank!!!"

We heard what you said but you aren't hearing what we are saying. That tank isn't big enough for those fish especially with the fry. The fry won't grow properly in there and then what are you going to do in 28-30 days when the females drop again?
Lets concider this for a moment: If we use the old obsolete "1 inch of fish per gallon" rule, the female drops 10-12 fry. The fry will need to be about 1/4" to be safe to put in the main tank with other fish and not get eaten. Now simple math will tell you that 1/4" X 12= 3" of fish. That is max stocked for that tank and thats only if she stops at 12 AND if they even reach that size. Now add in the size of the other adult female and HER fry....now do you see what we mean?

Exactly what do you mean by "great water conditions"? Have you tested it? Did you cycle it or use seeded media from another tank?
If there is an ammonia spike in that tank while she is giving birth it will very likely stress her and possible even kill her and the babies.



"by the way the tank looks,it could house that many fish with about more than half of the aquarium empty".

This statement shows that you have completely missed the point. We aren't talking about having room to turn around and scratch their butts, we're talking about having room for moving around, having some personal territory space and OVERLOADING THE BIO SYSTEM. You can pack 10 people in an elevator with room to spare but it's going to get mighty stinky in there real quick.

Now my next statement is going to sound hard and mean but I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one thats thinking it so I'll just be the "bad guy" and say it. You aren't interested in getting good advice or taking it, you only want the attention your getting by asking these pointless questions and getting a rise out of the people here.
If you truely want to put something in that itty bitty tank that will look good, thrive and last then just do what the EXPERIENCED people here are telling you. Otherwise, just do what you want (you're going to anyway) and stop trying to make people think you know what you're doing (which you obviously don't) and getting people frustrated with you.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:43 PM   #30
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whatever yu smart mouths a** holes im not replying anymore!i will put what ever i want in the tank!!!
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:46 PM   #31
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THE REAL VETTECH909:
im so sorry.that was posted by my little sister who got a hold of my compter.she dosent even have a tank she just made stuff up.i do have heavily pregnant females but you already answered my question i was going to post.i will change my password and this will NEVER happen again.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:50 PM   #32
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by the way,me,not my sis,have had 10 years experience in breeding fish,raising,rearing,and all over again.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:13 PM   #33
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*has no idea what to do*

so was it you, or your sis that has been replying to this entire thread?
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:33 PM   #34
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my sister.i was in florida.my platys dropped last night.she had 30 fry!!!
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:34 PM   #35
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ohh,sorry,the other female had 15 fry.i had them in seperate breeders.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:30 PM   #36
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Ok, what about all of the other threads with your name on them, such as the clown loach questions and african cichlid questions? Was that you or her?
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:04 PM   #37
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I'm confused
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Old 03-02-2008, 06:38 AM   #38
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Ok, never mind. it was nathan asking about the loachs. the ones with your name were about the tetras and guppies. Sorry for the mix up.
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:22 AM   #39
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i havent made any posts so forget all the others.
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