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**Baby_Baby** · 06-21-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PetMax

90 gallon setups include stand, glass top, lights, strip light, wood canopy, tank. This tanks are Crystal clear and they do not have a tint to them like larger tanks. Also, we give $25 in free fish and 20% off all fish equipment. Since your on this site i will give a $50 discount. The discount is not included in this price so take 50 off.
Honey Pine-578
Walnut-535
Gloss Black-675
Cherry-675

Now, just hte tank, lights, Plastic hood:There will not be any discounts. Discounts only apply to whole setups.
Honey Pine-353
Gloss Black-359
Oak-353

Now tanks, light, and glass hood:
Honey Pine-418
Gloss Black-424
oak-418

~Kyle

That sounds really good compared to what i see around here!!!! (my LFS)

PetMax · 06-22-2005, 09:30 PM

what can i say, no one can beat my setup prices. Walmart cant even touch me with their crappy stuff.

shev · 06-22-2005, 10:28 PM

you should come on up here to montana. not much business, but not much competition.

fishn00b · 06-23-2005, 12:00 AM

Lol start a whole chain of stores! I would love to see you put some of the places around my section of New Jersey out of business. They are so rediculously overpriced... I've seen some 125 gallon tanks priced at my LFS for 2500 dollars and up. I'm so disgusted at it.

fishfreaks · 06-23-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fishn00b

Lol start a whole chain of stores! I would love to see you put some of the places around my section of New Jersey out of business. They are so rediculously overpriced... I've seen some 125 gallon tanks priced at my LFS for 2500 dollars and up. I'm so disgusted at it.

thats jersey for yah!

euRasian32 · 06-23-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fishn00b

Lol start a whole chain of stores! I would love to see you put some of the places around my section of New Jersey out of business. They are so rediculously overpriced... I've seen some 125 gallon tanks priced at my LFS for 2500 dollars and up. I'm so disgusted at it.

wow. i paid 250 for my tank, cabinet stand, glass canopies and strip lights.

fishn00b · 06-23-2005, 01:29 PM

Yeah, I don't know what these guys are thinking trying to charge that much. This LFS is the only one within the area and they overprice EVERYTHING. I mean it is a nice tank, and a good wood stand, but it is still so expensive. I wish I could get away with only paying 250 for everything you got euRasian. I don't even think it comes with the lights or hood. As for now I'm stuck buying the kits from Walmart, they seem to be the cheapest, although I would love to have a 150+ gallon tank, it just doesnt seem in my buget right now.

PetMax · 06-23-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fishn00b

Yeah, I don't know what these guys are thinking trying to charge that much. This LFS is the only one within the area and they overprice EVERYTHING. I mean it is a nice tank, and a good wood stand, but it is still so expensive. I wish I could get away with only paying 250 for everything you got euRasian. I don't even think it comes with the lights or hood. As for now I'm stuck buying the kits from Walmart, they seem to be the cheapest, although I would love to have a 150+ gallon tank, it just doesnt seem in my buget right now.

come on people. Would you serious buy a TANK from walmart?? You have to remember. Price vs quality. Is walmart gonna refund your money for a new floor when their tank breaks in under a year?? Their tanks are no different quality than any other of their stuff. Let me tell you a small secret i found a couple years ago. The reason walmart sell their stuff so cheap is because it is lower quality. The foods, merchandise, anything. For instance, Walmart Bought out Iams dog foods. Now, i refuse to carry Iams because to get their lower prices, they skip out on things like filtering pesticides. I knew a guy who worked for Iams before walmart took over, and he told me, they had good quality foods and that their foods where "filtered 7 times to make sure everything was removed. He then told me, that after walmart bought them, they started only filtering 2 times. The quality of product is lower, therefore lower prices. You people have got to start supporting all pet merchandise from your LFS or from me! lol. anyway, seriously, your LFS is a valuable asset to your community. If you put them out of business my buying cheap ass walmart foods, in which will cause your animal to die in the next year, where are you gonna get your exotic **************** from then??? You think walmart is gonna start carrying stingrays, and 125 gallon tanks?? Get Real. Sorry for the rant, but i get so tired of people coming in my store, buying a 25-50 dollar animal and then tell me to my face that they dont need to get food cuz their going to walmart. That really pisses me off. And i tell them then, their is NO warranty on the animal since you decided to put them to their death anyway. Your LFS prices may be higher, but trust me, you are getting a HIGH quality stuff. I would never chance a Tank from Walmart. I would rather have piece of mind knowing my tank will last YEARS, and pay extra. man, sorry for hte rant, but i needed to vent. lmfao

~Kyle

fishfreaks · 06-23-2005, 08:35 PM

hmm, lexus wont be thrilled ( as she works there and supports their fish department) but i completly understand your point

fishn00b · 06-23-2005, 10:09 PM

I still don't think 2500 dollars for a 125 gallon is a reasonable price. I think they throw away customers in that department with it.

PetMax · 06-23-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fishn00b

I still don't think 2500 dollars for a 125 gallon is a reasonable price. I think they throw away customers in that department with it.

well i do agree that is way to much. 2500?? thats crazy. I got a Brand New 220gal with stand, glass top, and light strip for only 1899.99. I do think you guys are getting raped in prices. I dont have that much competition here, but it is a poorer area, therefore i must charge less if i want to sell anything.

maxpayne_lhp · 06-24-2005, 02:02 AM

Ouccccccchhhhhh that's too much! It can even make me to make a DIY!

fishn00b · 06-24-2005, 09:25 AM

Lol if I had the time I would definately build a nice aquarium myself. It's just there arn't many LFS in the area so they charge whatever they want. The only other pet stores are chains like petsmart and petco. So if you want an extravagant tank, you need to have a lot of money here.

maxpayne_lhp · 06-24-2005, 09:30 AM

Oh ok... however, a DIY tank is not easy anyway. You gotta do the measurements, use a diamond-head knife to cut them right? use glue (I dunno the English name for it) to get them together. Blah blah...
If you dun want to go to the local fish store, I think there're glass stores huh? Can we order a tank? I think they'll accept to. Just look for the thickness of the glass (depends on the volume of water, I think)...
About the stand, the previous one of mine was cut off from a shelf he he

fishn00b · 06-24-2005, 10:15 AM

Yeah the thickness depends on how many gallons you are putting in, and we bind the glass together with silicon. It wouldn't be an easy job which is why I would probably subdue to the 2500 dollar tanks in my area.

fishfreaks · 06-24-2005, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishn00b

Yeah the thickness depends on how many gallons you are putting in, and we bind the glass together with silicon. It wouldn't be an easy job which is why I would probably subdue to the 2500 dollar tanks in my area.

exactly. that and i wouldnt trust myself with that much water

**TheOldSalt** · 06-24-2005, 11:53 PM

So let me get this straight, Petmax... you're saying that if one of your customer's floors is destroyed under one of your tanks that you'll buy them a new floor? We already know that Perfecto and others won't honor their own such guarantees, so why do you?

Regent is only Marineland under a mass-distribution contract, and do you know who really makes WalMarts' tanks? I suppose Tetra is crap, too, since wallyworld sells so much of it?

Let me tell YOU a secret. WalMart's prices are as low as they are because they buy in more bulk than anyone else can. Sometimes quality can be an issue, sure, but it often isn't.

There are three aquarium factories within a two hour drive, so that drives prices down a bit around here, but sheesh! That 19 hundred dollar setup you described would only cost around 1100-1200 down here anytime, and even less after a hurricane, although you'd expect the opposite.

I understand your frustration, and I've felt it myself.
Berating your customers isn't the answer, though. Telling your customers that they are stupidly consigning their fish to their doom because they're buying Tetra-Min from WalMart instead of from you doesn't do one bit of good for your business or image, and revoking the warranty for it only justifies their decision to shop elsewhere in their minds.

You seem to have some serious customer service problems. Since service is the only thing you can really offer your customers that they might actually appreciate, may I suggest fixing them first? It won't save you by itself, of course, but it's a start. Customers only care about two things: themselves, and price. If you can quit making them feel bad, they might not mind paying your prices.

There is a book called "It's Not My Department" by Peter Glen. ISBN# 0-688-08896-1. Published by William Morrow & Company, 105 Madison Avenue, NY, NY 10016; copyright 1990.
I strongly suggest that you find a copy. It won't be easy, but it will change your life and possibly save your business from any further competitor's onslaught.
Ironically, I bought my own copy from Walmart for 2 bucks.

Sour grapes make a lousy whine.

Price, quality, service, and selection... it takes all four to win these days, but it's impossible to HAVE all four. The three you DO have must be really good to even survive, so it's important that you strive to maximize these assets.

Lydia · 06-25-2005, 06:53 PM

i gotta kinda agree with TOS

and petmax...you are 22 and own a store of your own already? congrats if you do! its rare to see people your age that actually have any work ethic....

**fish_doc** · 06-25-2005, 08:19 PM

Kind of late but welcome and good luck with the store. We are more than willing to help you learn anything you want to know.

PetMax · 06-25-2005, 09:01 PM

yes i do own my own store. The TOS, trust me, i dont have customer service issues nor do i have a problem with customers period. I have a huge repeat customer base and it still continues to grow. And if you can find a 220 setup cheaper, by all means thats great. But me personally, i havent.

06-23-2005, 08:35 PM	#49
fishfreaks M&F Couple Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PA Age: 21 Posts: 4,272	hmm, lexus wont be thrilled ( as she works there and supports their fish department) but i completly understand your point __________________ VOTE FOR FISH FORUMS

06-24-2005, 02:02 AM	#52
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	Ouccccccchhhhhh that's too much! It can even make me to make a DIY! __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~ Last edited by maxpayne_lhp; 06-24-2005 at 02:05 AM.

06-24-2005, 09:30 AM	#54
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	Oh ok... however, a DIY tank is not easy anyway. You gotta do the measurements, use a diamond-head knife to cut them right? use glue (I dunno the English name for it) to get them together. Blah blah... If you dun want to go to the local fish store, I think there're glass stores huh? Can we order a tank? I think they'll accept to. Just look for the thickness of the glass (depends on the volume of water, I think)... About the stand, the previous one of mine was cut off from a shelf he he __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

06-25-2005, 08:19 PM	#59
fish_doc Advisor to Neptune (Mod) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Illinois Age: 40 Posts: 3,953 Blog Entries: 19	Kind of late but welcome and good luck with the store. We are more than willing to help you learn anything you want to know. __________________ Dave (fish_doc) A World of fish

06-25-2005, 09:01 PM	#60
PetMax Exotic Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somerset Ky Age: 25 Posts: 113	yes i do own my own store. The TOS, trust me, i dont have customer service issues nor do i have a problem with customers period. I have a huge repeat customer base and it still continues to grow. And if you can find a 220 setup cheaper, by all means thats great. But me personally, i havent. __________________ Currently Setting up a 220g Saltwater. Check out the progress in the Picture section Equipment: Tidepool Sump, TurboTwist UV, Prism Skimmer,all in the works

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06-22-2005, 09:30 PM	#42
PetMax Exotic Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somerset Ky Age: 25 Posts: 113	what can i say, no one can beat my setup prices. Walmart cant even touch me with their crappy stuff.

06-22-2005, 10:28 PM	#43
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 20 Posts: 1,620	you should come on up here to montana. not much business, but not much competition.

06-23-2005, 12:00 AM	#44
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 401	Lol start a whole chain of stores! I would love to see you put some of the places around my section of New Jersey out of business. They are so rediculously overpriced... I've seen some 125 gallon tanks priced at my LFS for 2500 dollars and up. I'm so disgusted at it.

06-23-2005, 01:29 PM	#47
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 401	Yeah, I don't know what these guys are thinking trying to charge that much. This LFS is the only one within the area and they overprice EVERYTHING. I mean it is a nice tank, and a good wood stand, but it is still so expensive. I wish I could get away with only paying 250 for everything you got euRasian. I don't even think it comes with the lights or hood. As for now I'm stuck buying the kits from Walmart, they seem to be the cheapest, although I would love to have a 150+ gallon tank, it just doesnt seem in my buget right now.

06-23-2005, 10:09 PM	#50
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 401	I still don't think 2500 dollars for a 125 gallon is a reasonable price. I think they throw away customers in that department with it.

06-24-2005, 09:25 AM	#53
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 401	Lol if I had the time I would definately build a nice aquarium myself. It's just there arn't many LFS in the area so they charge whatever they want. The only other pet stores are chains like petsmart and petco. So if you want an extravagant tank, you need to have a lot of money here.

06-24-2005, 10:15 AM	#55
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 401	Yeah the thickness depends on how many gallons you are putting in, and we bind the glass together with silicon. It wouldn't be an easy job which is why I would probably subdue to the 2500 dollar tanks in my area.

06-24-2005, 11:53 PM	#57
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,532	So let me get this straight, Petmax... you're saying that if one of your customer's floors is destroyed under one of your tanks that you'll buy them a new floor? We already know that Perfecto and others won't honor their own such guarantees, so why do you? Regent is only Marineland under a mass-distribution contract, and do you know who really makes WalMarts' tanks? I suppose Tetra is crap, too, since wallyworld sells so much of it? Let me tell YOU a secret. WalMart's prices are as low as they are because they buy in more bulk than anyone else can. Sometimes quality can be an issue, sure, but it often isn't. There are three aquarium factories within a two hour drive, so that drives prices down a bit around here, but sheesh! That 19 hundred dollar setup you described would only cost around 1100-1200 down here anytime, and even less after a hurricane, although you'd expect the opposite. I understand your frustration, and I've felt it myself. Berating your customers isn't the answer, though. Telling your customers that they are stupidly consigning their fish to their doom because they're buying Tetra-Min from WalMart instead of from you doesn't do one bit of good for your business or image, and revoking the warranty for it only justifies their decision to shop elsewhere in their minds. You seem to have some serious customer service problems. Since service is the only thing you can really offer your customers that they might actually appreciate, may I suggest fixing them first? It won't save you by itself, of course, but it's a start. Customers only care about two things: themselves, and price. If you can quit making them feel bad, they might not mind paying your prices. There is a book called "It's Not My Department" by Peter Glen. ISBN# 0-688-08896-1. Published by William Morrow & Company, 105 Madison Avenue, NY, NY 10016; copyright 1990. I strongly suggest that you find a copy. It won't be easy, but it will change your life and possibly save your business from any further competitor's onslaught. Ironically, I bought my own copy from Walmart for 2 bucks. Sour grapes make a lousy whine. Price, quality, service, and selection... it takes all four to win these days, but it's impossible to HAVE all four. The three you DO have must be really good to even survive, so it's important that you strive to maximize these assets.

06-25-2005, 06:53 PM	#58
Lydia Ichthus Owner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,902	i gotta kinda agree with TOS and petmax...you are 22 and own a store of your own already? congrats if you do! its rare to see people your age that actually have any work ethic....

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