Incubating Snail Eggs

CyberSpike · 11-13-2006, 10:45 AM

Last night when doing my weekly water change I found a huge cluster of mystery snail eggs on my tank lid. I could tell it was way too close to the lighting and would dry out and die if not removed. I carefully removed the cluster and placed it in a ziploc container on a damp paper towel to keep in moist.

How can I ensure the survival and hatching of the eggs?

CyberSpike · 11-13-2006, 06:34 PM

oh and how defective is inbreeding to snail young? and when can I expect the next cluster?

rba · 11-14-2006, 08:30 AM

You might want to check out www.applesnail.net

flamingo · 11-14-2006, 11:48 AM

Personally, inbreeding, I don't think matters much.

When I bred snails (currently doing so now with ramshorns and cerith snails), I just let them go nuts. I don't touch the eggs, etc. While there are a lot of methods in hatchind breeding, and raising, IMHO i've found enough success in leaving it to themselves to go through it all. But, if your wanting to really get good results, buy some short grass like cluster plants.

rba · 11-14-2006, 03:21 PM

Huh? Applesnail eggs are hatched out of the water. The need to be kept warm and in humid air. I know there are a lot of methods people use to accomplish that. The easiest is to leave them in place IF they will not get too warm or dry. You will need to move them it sounds like. Check out that site, they have a whole section devoted to hatching etc.

flamingo · 11-14-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rba

Huh? Applesnail eggs are hatched out of the water. The need to be kept warm and in humid air. I know there are a lot of methods people use to accomplish that. The easiest is to leave them in place IF they will not get too warm or dry. You will need to move them it sounds like. Check out that site, they have a whole section devoted to hatching etc.

Sorry, I didn't know apple snails were hatched out of water! I just thought they were like most snails

.

CyberSpike · 11-15-2006, 08:46 PM

Another clutch has been laid.

Searching for a more balanced diet for my shell shocked friends, I've came across 2 ideas that I'd like to run by everyone.

Would turtle food be beneficial to snails once in a while as it provides both the proteins required in breeding, and the calcium to develop healthy shells.

How about rabbit food produced from alfalfa and wheat, once again providing high amounts of proteins and calcium, as well as minerals and vitamins. (however it does contain small amounts of salt and copper) It is also fed too many land snails.

CyberSpike · 12-02-2006, 01:00 PM

Proud to announce that 2 clusters have hatched since. I've raising one group in a jar for the past week, and another group just hatched in my 10gallon today. I'd really like to get a separate raising tank though as my 10g is becoming quite crowded, and so I can give the youngings the care they need.

T4987 · 12-03-2006, 10:54 PM

My last apple snail laid so many eggs I started throwing the clutches away. The snails over ran my tank before I realized my fish weren't getting enough oxygen and everything died. There were so many dead snails after that I left them in the tank and used their shells to mix with my gravel. It looks like a snail graveyard now.

CyberSpike · 12-13-2006, 02:58 PM

anybody know any online retailers that sell snail calcium and take paypal?

T4987 · 12-13-2006, 04:21 PM

not a retailer but you could try aquabid.

CyberSpike · 12-14-2006, 02:14 PM

I'm going to put some crushed eggshell in the filter to help boost the dissolved calcium in the water. I'm also getting some turtlefood from a buddy of mine, that should help increase the amount of calcium ingested by the snails.

I've read several times that people have used Kent Marine Liquid Calcium for their mystery snails, but they never mention if they have any freshwater fish, or if it would be damaging on a freshwater community tank.

dolifisis · 12-15-2006, 08:02 AM

I've heard that cuttle bone is a good source along with egg shell, crushed snail shell, natural chalk, tortoise food, and calcium supplements from pet shops.

CyberSpike · 12-15-2006, 09:17 AM

I'm said to report that I think my large female snail has passed away.

She has her foot part way out of her shell, trap door open, and hasnt moved in about 2 days. I taken her out and touched her to see if I could get a response but she isn't moving.

I've got her isolated in hopes she is just tired, my male is busily searching the tank for his former mate and seems quite distraught over her disappearance.

As for her young, can anyone tell me if the kent marine calcium will work with my freshwater fish?

Puffer Pita · 12-15-2006, 09:54 AM

Liquid calcium does nothing for the snails, they must consume it. Get a cuttlebone from your local pet store, the kind birds gnaw on, and throw it in the tank. They'll chew on it.

CyberSpike · 12-17-2006, 01:47 PM

Are there any plants I can grow at home that would make good snail food for my growing broods? lol

11-13-2006, 10:45 AM	#1
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	Incubating Snail Eggs Last night when doing my weekly water change I found a huge cluster of mystery snail eggs on my tank lid. I could tell it was way too close to the lighting and would dry out and die if not removed. I carefully removed the cluster and placed it in a ziploc container on a damp paper towel to keep in moist. How can I ensure the survival and hatching of the eggs? __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

11-13-2006, 06:34 PM	#2
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	oh and how defective is inbreeding to snail young? and when can I expect the next cluster? __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

11-14-2006, 11:48 AM	#4
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 17 Posts: 1,879	Personally, inbreeding, I don't think matters much. When I bred snails (currently doing so now with ramshorns and cerith snails), I just let them go nuts. I don't touch the eggs, etc. While there are a lot of methods in hatchind breeding, and raising, IMHO i've found enough success in leaving it to themselves to go through it all. But, if your wanting to really get good results, buy some short grass like cluster plants. __________________ I'm still around from time to time. If you'd like to chat, send me a pm and i'll tell you where to contact me

11-15-2006, 08:46 PM	#7
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	Another clutch has been laid. Searching for a more balanced diet for my shell shocked friends, I've came across 2 ideas that I'd like to run by everyone. Would turtle food be beneficial to snails once in a while as it provides both the proteins required in breeding, and the calcium to develop healthy shells. How about rabbit food produced from alfalfa and wheat, once again providing high amounts of proteins and calcium, as well as minerals and vitamins. (however it does contain small amounts of salt and copper) It is also fed too many land snails. __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

12-02-2006, 01:00 PM	#8
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	Proud to announce that 2 clusters have hatched since. I've raising one group in a jar for the past week, and another group just hatched in my 10gallon today. I'd really like to get a separate raising tank though as my 10g is becoming quite crowded, and so I can give the youngings the care they need. __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

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11-14-2006, 08:30 AM	#3
rba I'm Korean we love dog :) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: CT, USA Posts: 46	You might want to check out www.applesnail.net

11-14-2006, 03:21 PM	#5
rba I'm Korean we love dog :) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: CT, USA Posts: 46	Huh? Applesnail eggs are hatched out of the water. The need to be kept warm and in humid air. I know there are a lot of methods people use to accomplish that. The easiest is to leave them in place IF they will not get too warm or dry. You will need to move them it sounds like. Check out that site, they have a whole section devoted to hatching etc.

12-03-2006, 10:54 PM	#9
T4987 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 68	My last apple snail laid so many eggs I started throwing the clutches away. The snails over ran my tank before I realized my fish weren't getting enough oxygen and everything died. There were so many dead snails after that I left them in the tank and used their shells to mix with my gravel. It looks like a snail graveyard now.

12-13-2006, 02:58 PM	#10
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	anybody know any online retailers that sell snail calcium and take paypal? __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

12-13-2006, 04:21 PM	#11
T4987 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 68	not a retailer but you could try aquabid.

12-14-2006, 02:14 PM	#12
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	I'm going to put some crushed eggshell in the filter to help boost the dissolved calcium in the water. I'm also getting some turtlefood from a buddy of mine, that should help increase the amount of calcium ingested by the snails. I've read several times that people have used Kent Marine Liquid Calcium for their mystery snails, but they never mention if they have any freshwater fish, or if it would be damaging on a freshwater community tank. __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

12-15-2006, 08:02 AM	#13
dolifisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 163	I've heard that cuttle bone is a good source along with egg shell, crushed snail shell, natural chalk, tortoise food, and calcium supplements from pet shops. __________________ __________________ Doli Eclipse Corner5 False Julii Juvies Eclipse12 5 Ottos 3 White Cloud Mountain Minnows 7 False Julii Cory Cats Blue Apple Snail Live Plants

12-15-2006, 09:17 AM	#14
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	I'm said to report that I think my large female snail has passed away. She has her foot part way out of her shell, trap door open, and hasnt moved in about 2 days. I taken her out and touched her to see if I could get a response but she isn't moving. I've got her isolated in hopes she is just tired, my male is busily searching the tank for his former mate and seems quite distraught over her disappearance. As for her young, can anyone tell me if the kent marine calcium will work with my freshwater fish? __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

12-15-2006, 09:54 AM	#15
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,672	Liquid calcium does nothing for the snails, they must consume it. Get a cuttlebone from your local pet store, the kind birds gnaw on, and throw it in the tank. They'll chew on it. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

12-17-2006, 01:47 PM	#16
CyberSpike Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 91	Are there any plants I can grow at home that would make good snail food for my growing broods? lol __________________ Ryan Woodford ~* Planted 10 Gallon ~ 2 Cherry Barbs 2 Mystery Snails 6 Neon Tetras 1 Otto Cat ~ Planted 3/4 Gallon Bowl *~ 1 Crowntail Betta

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