will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp?

MyraVan · 01-19-2005, 11:03 AM

I currently have 8 fish in a 20 Gal tank: 4 zebra danios, 2 rosy barbs, 2 hillstream loaches.

I would like to get some Amano shrimp, partly for their algae-eating abilities, partly because they are supposed to be really cute! The LFS has some. However I worry about the other fish eating them.The zebra danios and hillstream loaches certainly won't, but I'm not 100% sure about the rosy barbs. Does anyone have any experience with Amano shrimp, enough to guess whether they would be eaten or not?

maxpayne_lhp · 01-20-2005, 05:19 AM

Probably, young ones will be aten out quickly! But I have 4 adult ones and they are so big that no fish in my tank can harm them.

Cichlid Man · 01-20-2005, 10:59 AM

IME Tiger and rosey barbs will attack large ghost shrimps but because amano shrimps are a lot tougher then you should have no problems, however small ones will get attacked.

shev · 01-20-2005, 01:04 PM

yeah, amanos are "buffer" than ghost shrimp, but they may rip off legs or antennas from small amanos

MyraVan · 01-21-2005, 05:26 AM

The ones I saw in the shop were about 1 inch long. I guess that's too small for them to be safe with the rosy barbs. Oh, well. Maybe for the next tank!

Thanks for all your help, folks.

maxpayne_lhp · 01-21-2005, 06:34 AM

I used to have these guys as freshfood for some of my guys in the community tank. About 10% out of my order is big guys so some can survive until now

Looking these guys grabbing the tubifex worms is so fantastic. They get there nervously so, I need to place bunches of these worms in the shrmp's area sometimes to encourage them. I don't feed the fish with aminos any longer.

Bob2 · 01-21-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MyraVan @ Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:03 am

I currently have 8 fish in a 20 Gal tank: 4 zebra danios, 2 rosy barbs, 2 hillstream loaches.

I would like to get some Amano shrimp, partly for their algae-eating abilities, partly because they are supposed to be really cute! The LFS has some. However I worry about the other fish eating them.The zebra danios and hillstream loaches certainly won't, but I'm not 100% sure about the rosy barbs. Does anyone have any experience with Amano shrimp, enough to guess whether they would be eaten or not?

To help with your problem with alage, you might try FLORIDA FLAG FISH...they are small, fairly colorful and do a good job esp on hair algae.

maxpayne_lhp · 01-21-2005, 06:55 AM

How many tupes of fresh water algea are there?

Cichlid Man · 01-21-2005, 09:53 AM

The only three that's ever grown in my tank are:
The dotty green stuff that is really difficult to scrape off the glass and grows in bright light, the brown stuff that comes off really easily by a scraper or a pleco and grows in more shadey areas, and the hair like algae that usually grows in water with very high neutrients.

Fish n chips · 01-21-2005, 11:59 AM

Molllys will do the job

Cichlid Man · 01-22-2005, 08:25 AM

It depends on what type of algae it is, mollys won't be able to tackle really coarse algae but plecos will.

Damon · 01-22-2005, 10:43 AM

Mollies are some of the best algae eaters out there. they eat brown, hair and black (yes I said bba.)
Established Green spot algae isn't eaten by plecos. Its to hard for them to remove from glass. Otos are some of the best algae eaters out there. The Florida Flag fish is good, but some strains won't eat anything but hair algae. They wouldn't touch my BBA. Amanos and cherry shrimp are excellent algae eaters also. Your barbs will eat small shrimp regardless of the species. Full grown Amanos should be O.K. You never know though.

Cichlid Man · 01-22-2005, 10:54 AM

Mollies may be able to eat certain types of algae that plecos can't, but plecos can cover a larger surface area of glass and are more efficient at eating the brown stuff than mollies.

maxpayne_lhp · 01-22-2005, 08:48 PM

lol Algea is surely a nuisance, but it's inportant!
Well, I srapt theses stuff out every week as the tank is close to the window. I use the srcaper and my old teeth brush, also. These guys are stubborn!
Hmm... about the free-float form of algea? My friend ran into that, that really clouds the tank!

MyraVan · 02-01-2005, 04:42 AM

I have two kinds of algae in my tank, brown (diatoms, really not algae) and short green stuff. Both are easily removed by scraping. The brown algae mainly grows on the plant leaves, and the geen stuff is mainly on the glass. The rosy barbs pick at the brown algae, but don't really take much off. I also have 2 hillstream loaches in the tank (it's unheated). They graze the green algae from the glass, and one of them also sits on the leaves and eats the brown algae, He (or she) is slowly cleaning up the leaves, faster than it forms, so the amount of brown algae in the tank is slowly decreasing.

I think I mainly wanted the Amano shrimps because I thought they looked cooll. But they won't go in this tank. Maybe the next one!

Cichlid Man · 02-05-2005, 10:48 AM

I live in England too, and I know how harsh the winters get here, and keeping rosey barbs in cold water is like playing with fire, one day they will die if the tank gets too cold. Unless you live in a house that permantly has the heating on that is.

MyraVan · 02-25-2005, 05:36 AM

We do have our heating on all the time. The tank never gets below 19C.

I now have a 5gal (5 American gallons, 20l) invert tank in my office, just set up this week. It now houses 2 snails, and when it has settled down I'll get some shrimp for it.

Cichlid Man · 02-26-2005, 11:36 AM

Sounds like it's going to be a nice tank, a lone paradise fish will make a nice addition.

MyraVan · 02-28-2005, 06:04 AM

Hmmmm, I don't think that a fish that gets to be 4" long would be a very good fish for a 5gal tank, especially since the apple snail (P. bridgesii) needs 2 gal on its own. (American gallons, that is...)

I must admit that I did consider setting this tank up for fish of some kind instead of inverts (I think killifish would find it an ideal home). But I have a fish tank at home. I want to experiment with different kinds fo aquatic critters, so I thought that I could get some small inverts for this tank. Already I'm finding the apple snail quite fascinating. His mate, which is some kind of nerite, isn't nearltyas interesting. The apple snail comes partly out of his shell and waves his long antennae around, but the nerite stays pretty much completely in his shell, only putting his small dark antennae out.

It's cool when they're stuck to the front galss and I can watch their mouths at work.

**Fishfirst** · 02-28-2005, 09:45 AM

I agree... a gourami would be a horrible choice

01-19-2005, 11:03 AM	#1
MyraVan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 861	will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? I currently have 8 fish in a 20 Gal tank: 4 zebra danios, 2 rosy barbs, 2 hillstream loaches. I would like to get some Amano shrimp, partly for their algae-eating abilities, partly because they are supposed to be really cute! The LFS has some. However I worry about the other fish eating them.The zebra danios and hillstream loaches certainly won't, but I'm not 100% sure about the rosy barbs. Does anyone have any experience with Amano shrimp, enough to guess whether they would be eaten or not?

01-20-2005, 05:19 AM	#2
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	Probably, young ones will be aten out quickly! But I have 4 adult ones and they are so big that no fish in my tank can harm them. __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

01-20-2005, 10:59 AM	#3
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? IME Tiger and rosey barbs will attack large ghost shrimps but because amano shrimps are a lot tougher then you should have no problems, however small ones will get attacked.

01-20-2005, 01:04 PM	#4
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 20 Posts: 1,620	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? yeah, amanos are "buffer" than ghost shrimp, but they may rip off legs or antennas from small amanos

01-21-2005, 05:26 AM	#5
MyraVan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 861	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? The ones I saw in the shop were about 1 inch long. I guess that's too small for them to be safe with the rosy barbs. Oh, well. Maybe for the next tank! Thanks for all your help, folks.

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01-21-2005, 06:34 AM	#6
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	I used to have these guys as freshfood for some of my guys in the community tank. About 10% out of my order is big guys so some can survive until now Looking these guys grabbing the tubifex worms is so fantastic. They get there nervously so, I need to place bunches of these worms in the shrmp's area sometimes to encourage them. I don't feed the fish with aminos any longer. __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

01-21-2005, 06:55 AM	#8
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	How many tupes of fresh water algea are there? __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

01-21-2005, 09:53 AM	#9
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? The only three that's ever grown in my tank are: The dotty green stuff that is really difficult to scrape off the glass and grows in bright light, the brown stuff that comes off really easily by a scraper or a pleco and grows in more shadey areas, and the hair like algae that usually grows in water with very high neutrients. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

01-21-2005, 11:59 AM	#10
Fish n chips Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? Molllys will do the job

01-22-2005, 08:25 AM	#11
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? It depends on what type of algae it is, mollys won't be able to tackle really coarse algae but plecos will. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

01-22-2005, 10:43 AM	#12
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,971	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? Mollies are some of the best algae eaters out there. they eat brown, hair and black (yes I said bba.) Established Green spot algae isn't eaten by plecos. Its to hard for them to remove from glass. Otos are some of the best algae eaters out there. The Florida Flag fish is good, but some strains won't eat anything but hair algae. They wouldn't touch my BBA. Amanos and cherry shrimp are excellent algae eaters also. Your barbs will eat small shrimp regardless of the species. Full grown Amanos should be O.K. You never know though. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

01-22-2005, 10:54 AM	#13
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? Mollies may be able to eat certain types of algae that plecos can't, but plecos can cover a larger surface area of glass and are more efficient at eating the brown stuff than mollies. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

01-22-2005, 08:48 PM	#14
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,174	lol Algea is surely a nuisance, but it's inportant! Well, I srapt theses stuff out every week as the tank is close to the window. I use the srcaper and my old teeth brush, also. These guys are stubborn! Hmm... about the free-float form of algea? My friend ran into that, that really clouds the tank! __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

02-01-2005, 04:42 AM	#15
MyraVan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 861	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? I have two kinds of algae in my tank, brown (diatoms, really not algae) and short green stuff. Both are easily removed by scraping. The brown algae mainly grows on the plant leaves, and the geen stuff is mainly on the glass. The rosy barbs pick at the brown algae, but don't really take much off. I also have 2 hillstream loaches in the tank (it's unheated). They graze the green algae from the glass, and one of them also sits on the leaves and eats the brown algae, He (or she) is slowly cleaning up the leaves, faster than it forms, so the amount of brown algae in the tank is slowly decreasing. I think I mainly wanted the Amano shrimps because I thought they looked cooll. But they won't go in this tank. Maybe the next one!

02-05-2005, 10:48 AM	#16
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? I live in England too, and I know how harsh the winters get here, and keeping rosey barbs in cold water is like playing with fire, one day they will die if the tank gets too cold. Unless you live in a house that permantly has the heating on that is. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

02-25-2005, 05:36 AM	#17
MyraVan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 861	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? We do have our heating on all the time. The tank never gets below 19C. I now have a 5gal (5 American gallons, 20l) invert tank in my office, just set up this week. It now houses 2 snails, and when it has settled down I'll get some shrimp for it.

02-26-2005, 11:36 AM	#18
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,093	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? Sounds like it's going to be a nice tank, a lone paradise fish will make a nice addition. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

02-28-2005, 06:04 AM	#19
MyraVan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 861	Re: will rosy barbs eat Amano shrimp? Hmmmm, I don't think that a fish that gets to be 4" long would be a very good fish for a 5gal tank, especially since the apple snail (P. bridgesii) needs 2 gal on its own. (American gallons, that is...) I must admit that I did consider setting this tank up for fish of some kind instead of inverts (I think killifish would find it an ideal home). But I have a fish tank at home. I want to experiment with different kinds fo aquatic critters, so I thought that I could get some small inverts for this tank. Already I'm finding the apple snail quite fascinating. His mate, which is some kind of nerite, isn't nearltyas interesting. The apple snail comes partly out of his shell and waves his long antennae around, but the nerite stays pretty much completely in his shell, only putting his small dark antennae out. It's cool when they're stuck to the front galss and I can watch their mouths at work.

02-28-2005, 09:45 AM	#20
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