Sorry for the downtime... - Page 3

CaysE · 03-28-2008, 07:30 AM

It's surprising how many fish-keeping forums have been hacked over the years. Animal rights groups, maybe?

NOD32 from eset.com is seriously the best protection you can have on a home PC.

jerrybell · 03-28-2008, 08:41 AM

I did not get to see the defaced page, but I would strongly suspect that the attack was opportunistic somewhat political, and didn't have anything to do with FF being about keeping fish. Once a web application is found to be vulnerable, it's very easy, in general, for attackers to obtain a list of web sites that are running that software. Once they have the list, they systematically attack each one.

CaysE · 03-28-2008, 09:39 AM

The page was just a pic of two people kissing, hosted on l22l.com

**TheOldSalt** · 03-28-2008, 09:48 AM

It also redirected viewers to another webpage, something about an online pharmacy company, but that page had been shut down by it's ISP.

I didn't have any antivirus software going, and I fiddled around with FF at the time so much that I must have been hit. I installed some AV software, but it hasn't been able to find anything.
I'm not having any weird behavior or performance issues. All I'm really worried about is someone getting ahold of sensitive information.

guppyart · 03-28-2008, 11:10 AM

yay for being awsome not having a firewall on and somehow still not getting virused \o/.

that being said was talking with someone and they mentioned that some other sites on the same server got hit so likely FF wasn't the only target,, just we were easy prey.

I blame us being an easy target on not having a chat

chat would have protected us.

hehe

Ricker · 03-28-2008, 12:27 PM

LOL guppy ya i really dont care if my pc gets hacked because I will hack him back. but i have info on here like papers personall info etc.. That if some one else got I am screwed.

jerrybell · 03-28-2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricker

LOL guppy ya i really dont care if my pc gets hacked because I will hack him back. but i have info on here like papers personall info etc.. That if some one else got I am screwed.

You should seriously consider it. This is one of those situations where you're either part of the solution or part of the problem. Your system will get owned and you will probably not know it. Many nasty things can result, from simply using your computer to send spam, to being part of a bot herd that is used to extort money from companies, and even to hosting things like pirated music & software, and child pornography.

As to your comment on hacking back - first, I highly doubt you have that capability, second, the apparent source of the attack is almost certianly going to be some poor sap's computer who also didn't think it was important to have a/v & firewalls.

Even if I did not keep sensitive stuff on my PC, to me, it's not worth the risk of having my door kicked in and my house searched because I am accused of hosting warez, porn, or hacking someone else.

Ricker · 03-28-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

You should seriously consider it. This is one of those situations where you're either part of the solution or part of the problem. Your system will get owned and you will probably not know it. Many nasty things can result, from simply using your computer to send spam, to being part of a bot herd that is used to extort money from companies, and even to hosting things like pirated music & software, and child pornography.

As to your comment on hacking back - first, I highly doubt you have that capability, second, the apparent source of the attack is almost certianly going to be some poor sap's computer who also didn't think it was important to have a/v & firewalls.

Even if I did not keep sensitive stuff on my PC, to me, it's not worth the risk of having my door kicked in and my house searched because I am accused of hosting warez, porn, or hacking someone else.

True I never thought of that. No I have a firewall and A/V it never got passed my firewall on this computer on the other Vista saw it or it virus program and killed it. I know how to hack computers. But you are right I never thought of like child pornography probly the worst one on that list.

Nautilus · 03-29-2008, 01:02 AM

The e-mail was from admin@fishforums.com

That was you guys right and I have nothing to worry about?

TREASURECHEST · 04-02-2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

Just becarefull. The site was hacked but it was also downloaded a trojan on to your computers. Make sure you are not infected.

I IMMEDIATELY did a scan-and-clean using Trend Micro's Housecall.....it works fantastic and it's free!!! (TrendMicro.com and click on Housecall)

Will Chat be back up anytime soon????

**Shaggy** · 04-03-2008, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus

The e-mail was from admin@fishforums.com

That was you guys right and I have nothing to worry about?

Yes I sent that, so there is nothing to worry about.

**Scuba Kid** · 04-03-2008, 07:02 AM

I second TREASURECHEST's question. When, if ever, is chat coming back? What exactly is the problem with it and why has it become so difficult to fix?

TREASURECHEST · 04-11-2008, 10:45 PM

Can I "Third" the request????????????????

**lohachata** · 04-15-2008, 08:14 PM

hello peoples.....this is rather interesting stuff.i happened to answer an e-mail from here last september...goodbye computer..just got back online last night.it has been a long and lonely time without my computer.
i love my computer....all my friends live in there.
but now it seens that chat is down..or is it just me??
hope to talk to you folks soon.

**JustOneMore20** · 04-15-2008, 09:15 PM

Chat is down, but its being worked on.

Welcome back, John!

**Shaggy** · 04-15-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lohachata

hello peoples.....this is rather interesting stuff.i happened to answer an e-mail from here last september...goodbye computer..just got back online last night.it has been a long and lonely time without my computer.
i love my computer....all my friends live in there.
but now it seens that chat is down..or is it just me??
hope to talk to you folks soon.

Wow, John. Good to see you back

**Osiris** · 04-16-2008, 11:08 AM

JOHN"S BACK! wb! Now got someone to pick on again

Buggy · 04-16-2008, 09:59 PM

Hey John, remember me? Welcome back!

fcastro16 · 06-25-2008, 09:48 AM

My account got deleted.......

Kyoberr · 06-25-2008, 04:26 PM

Somebody has too much time on their hands, or they're being paid. I like Cascada though

03-28-2008, 07:30 AM	#41
CaysE Stowaway Winner Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Age: 29 Posts: 316	It's surprising how many fish-keeping forums have been hacked over the years. Animal rights groups, maybe? NOD32 from eset.com is seriously the best protection you can have on a home PC. __________________ 20gal tall! The display tank. Flourite substrate, Nutrafin CO2 system, Aquaclear 50, 55W 6.5k bulb @ 10hrs, 65W 10k bulb @ 2hrs, 100W Visi-Therm 4 furcata rainbows (and 8 fry!), 1 albino longfin bristlenose pleco, 6 crystal red shrimp, ramshorn & physa snails 5gal hex! Mini planted tank Eclipse Hex5 with Eco-Complete substrate, 25W heater, 1 male crowntail betta, some ramshorn and physa snails.

03-28-2008, 08:41 AM	#42
jerrybell Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10	I did not get to see the defaced page, but I would strongly suspect that the attack was opportunistic somewhat political, and didn't have anything to do with FF being about keeping fish. Once a web application is found to be vulnerable, it's very easy, in general, for attackers to obtain a list of web sites that are running that software. Once they have the list, they systematically attack each one. __________________ Tropical Fish Store Map

03-28-2008, 09:39 AM	#43
CaysE Stowaway Winner Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Age: 29 Posts: 316	The page was just a pic of two people kissing, hosted on l22l.com __________________ 20gal tall! The display tank. Flourite substrate, Nutrafin CO2 system, Aquaclear 50, 55W 6.5k bulb @ 10hrs, 65W 10k bulb @ 2hrs, 100W Visi-Therm 4 furcata rainbows (and 8 fry!), 1 albino longfin bristlenose pleco, 6 crystal red shrimp, ramshorn & physa snails 5gal hex! Mini planted tank Eclipse Hex5 with Eco-Complete substrate, 25W heater, 1 male crowntail betta, some ramshorn and physa snails.

03-28-2008, 11:10 AM	#45
guppyart Naked wookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: canada Age: 19 Posts: 697	yay for being awsome not having a firewall on and somehow still not getting virused \o/. that being said was talking with someone and they mentioned that some other sites on the same server got hit so likely FF wasn't the only target,, just we were easy prey. I blame us being an easy target on not having a chat chat would have protected us. hehe __________________ photography

03-29-2008, 01:02 AM	#49
Nautilus DIVE!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a city Posts: 15	The e-mail was from admin@fishforums.com That was you guys right and I have nothing to worry about? __________________

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03-28-2008, 09:48 AM	#44
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,354	It also redirected viewers to another webpage, something about an online pharmacy company, but that page had been shut down by it's ISP. I didn't have any antivirus software going, and I fiddled around with FF at the time so much that I must have been hit. I installed some AV software, but it hasn't been able to find anything. I'm not having any weird behavior or performance issues. All I'm really worried about is someone getting ahold of sensitive information.

03-28-2008, 12:27 PM	#46
Ricker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 514	LOL guppy ya i really dont care if my pc gets hacked because I will hack him back. but i have info on here like papers personall info etc.. That if some one else got I am screwed.

04-03-2008, 07:02 AM	#52
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	I second TREASURECHEST's question. When, if ever, is chat coming back? What exactly is the problem with it and why has it become so difficult to fix? __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

04-11-2008, 10:45 PM	#53
TREASURECHEST Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: S.E.Michigan Age: 42 Posts: 178	Can I "Third" the request???????????????? __________________ First in the world to spawn LDA-81 Peckoltia sp. "Para Tributary" Leopard Frog

04-15-2008, 08:14 PM	#54
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 539	hello peoples.....this is rather interesting stuff.i happened to answer an e-mail from here last september...goodbye computer..just got back online last night.it has been a long and lonely time without my computer. i love my computer....all my friends live in there. but now it seens that chat is down..or is it just me?? hope to talk to you folks soon. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

04-15-2008, 09:15 PM	#55
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,571	Chat is down, but its being worked on. Welcome back, John! __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g

04-16-2008, 11:08 AM	#57
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,714	JOHN"S BACK! wb! Now got someone to pick on again __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

04-16-2008, 09:59 PM	#58
Buggy Room Mother Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oklahoma Age: 42 Posts: 736	Hey John, remember me? Welcome back! __________________ Fish are people too! *My Animal Family* Dixie - Boxer/Lab Peanut -Chihuahua Cali - American Short-hair Cat B.B. - Parakeet Flower - Western Ornate Box Turtle Loki - White Ferret Odin - Brown Ferret *Aquariums* 55 gal tropical Fresh Water - 23 various fish 29 gal tropical Fresh Water - 4 various cichlids 10 gal tropical Fresh Water - 1 Red Male Betta, 3 black neon tetras, 1 Asian Glass Catfish

06-25-2008, 09:48 AM	#59
fcastro16 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 16 Posts: 7	My account got deleted.......

06-25-2008, 04:26 PM	#60
Kyoberr The Hip Hop Hippopotamus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 398	Somebody has too much time on their hands, or they're being paid. I like Cascada though __________________ There are always more fish in the sea!!!

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