Sand for FW Stingray - Page 2

Gump · 07-31-2007, 11:25 PM

Side not for anyone else reading, do not clip the rays stinger or put a cover on it. Some people cover the stinger with a cork to ship but you should remove it when you introduce them to the tank.

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 11:30 PM

As long as you don't be stupid and mishandle the ray, you shouldn't need to clip the stinger.

It just seems wrong to me....mutilating your fish.

SBDTHUR · 07-31-2007, 11:42 PM

Im not sure on this, but doesn't the rays tail fall off anyway? I know it falls off but as for the stinger don't they get new ones? :P

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 11:46 PM

Oh, I don't know. Maybe they shed them?

EDIT: nevermind, I found out that they do regrow them, only if they break off when defending themselves. So yea, if you were to clip the stinger, it would just regrow again.

SBDTHUR · 08-01-2007, 12:38 AM

I knew it.

Scuba Kid · 08-02-2007, 08:27 PM

Well, they don't just regrow them if they fall off. They continuously grow new ones throughout their lives. When the new barb grows up enough, the other one falls out. This is why you may sometimes see a ray with "two barbs." Its also why you have to be careful cleaning the gravel/sand and keep in mind that they "shed" them every 3-6 months or so.

Apotheosis · 08-02-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba Kid

Well, they don't just regrow them if they fall off. They continuously grow new ones throughout their lives. When the new barb grows up enough, the other one falls out. This is why you may sometimes see a ray with "two barbs." Its also why you have to be careful cleaning the gravel/sand and keep in mind that they "shed" them every 3-6 months or so.

I will NEVER use wikipedia again.

It has failed me so many times. LOL, it never said anything about them shedding their barbs. Only that "They regrow their stingers when they break off".

MaelStrom · 08-03-2007, 12:05 PM

From here http://www.geocities.com/heartland/m.../5590/ray.html

Gump · 08-03-2007, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba Kid

Well, they don't just regrow them if they fall off. They continuously grow new ones throughout their lives. When the new barb grows up enough, the other one falls out. This is why you may sometimes see a ray with "two barbs." Its also why you have to be careful cleaning the gravel/sand and keep in mind that they "shed" them every 3-6 months or so.

Correct....

Danh · 08-10-2007, 07:25 AM

I had one with three at once one time... It's a good sign that they are doing well and growing.

SBDTHUR · 08-10-2007, 12:05 PM

I know this post is pretty much dead but.. I heard that there was a guy on another forum that watched his ray shed it, and then he touched it and his arm went numb for like an half a day.

(Numbero 200) :P

Scuba Kid · 08-10-2007, 01:43 PM

Well even though it isn't on the ray, it is still toxic if it punctures your skin.

The spine itself is hard and bone-like. The toxin is between the spine itself and the skin sheeth that covers it. When the spine punctures something it also punctures the sheeth, releasing the toxin into the wound of whatever the ray hits. Therefore, doesn't really matter much if the the spine is still on the ray or not.

So he might have had a small cut or something on his hand or arm and the sheeth of the spine may have been broken....so a small amount of toxin could have entered somewhere on his hand.

07-31-2007, 11:46 PM	#24
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	Oh, I don't know. Maybe they shed them? EDIT: nevermind, I found out that they do regrow them, only if they break off when defending themselves. So yea, if you were to clip the stinger, it would just regrow again. Last edited by Apotheosis; 07-31-2007 at 11:50 PM.

08-02-2007, 08:27 PM	#26
Scuba Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,225	Well, they don't just regrow them if they fall off. They continuously grow new ones throughout their lives. When the new barb grows up enough, the other one falls out. This is why you may sometimes see a ray with "two barbs." Its also why you have to be careful cleaning the gravel/sand and keep in mind that they "shed" them every 3-6 months or so. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

08-10-2007, 07:25 AM	#30
Danh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 24 Posts: 634	I had one with three at once one time... It's a good sign that they are doing well and growing. __________________ 450g-30"&20"0.bichirossum,18" cichla temX,12"p.ornatipinnis&lapradei,2x15"c.temensis,15 " c.orinocensis,12"L.platrhynchus, 30" Crock I gar 180g-10" d.pulcher,2x8"d. pulcher, 3x8"c.orinocensis, 7"jardini 90g-4"stripeneck musk turtle,8xc.macracanthus 3-7",2x7" s.tanereius 30g-2x7" a.batrachus 30g-4"p.delhezi&endlicheri, 4"m.irwini

08-10-2007, 12:05 PM	#31
SBDTHUR is gone.. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 326	I know this post is pretty much dead but.. I heard that there was a guy on another forum that watched his ray shed it, and then he touched it and his arm went numb for like an half a day. (Numbero 200) :P Last edited by SBDTHUR; 08-10-2007 at 12:08 PM.

08-10-2007, 01:43 PM	#32
Scuba Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,225	Well even though it isn't on the ray, it is still toxic if it punctures your skin. The spine itself is hard and bone-like. The toxin is between the spine itself and the skin sheeth that covers it. When the spine punctures something it also punctures the sheeth, releasing the toxin into the wound of whatever the ray hits. Therefore, doesn't really matter much if the the spine is still on the ray or not. So he might have had a small cut or something on his hand or arm and the sheeth of the spine may have been broken....so a small amount of toxin could have entered somewhere on his hand. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

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07-31-2007, 11:25 PM	#21
Gump Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 498	Side not for anyone else reading, do not clip the rays stinger or put a cover on it. Some people cover the stinger with a cork to ship but you should remove it when you introduce them to the tank.

07-31-2007, 11:30 PM	#22
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	As long as you don't be stupid and mishandle the ray, you shouldn't need to clip the stinger. It just seems wrong to me....mutilating your fish.

07-31-2007, 11:42 PM	#23
SBDTHUR is gone.. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 326	Im not sure on this, but doesn't the rays tail fall off anyway? I know it falls off but as for the stinger don't they get new ones? :P

08-01-2007, 12:38 AM	#25
SBDTHUR is gone.. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 326	I knew it.

08-03-2007, 12:05 PM	#28
MaelStrom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 374	From here http://www.geocities.com/heartland/m.../5590/ray.html

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