Arowana...which to get?

**Scuba Kid** · 06-07-2005, 07:11 PM

i just wondered if there are any arowanas as cheap as the silver? i dont really want a silver one, but i really want an arowana as soon as i get my big tank. what other types are as cheap?

euRasian32 · 06-07-2005, 09:10 PM

None. Silvers (Osteoglossum bicirrhosum) are the cheapest and most common. Price will also depend on how you get them, either through your LFS or online/shipped.

I'm partial to the jardini (Scleropages jardini), going to be the fourth and last fish I introduce to my tank.
A helpfullink I found in my research, written by David Haltinner of AquaWorldMagazine.

Beerleader · 06-07-2005, 09:58 PM

I haven't ever found ANY but the silver where I live and definitely nothing cheap besides the silver. Everyone says the black ones are easy to come by but never have I seen even one around here, not even in a show tank not for sale, so I got a silver because it was the only one I could find! And I am glad, its a really great fish now that he's gotten used to me! At first he was a bit of a nutcase and spazzed out all the time, but he's alright now. And I say He but have no idea, does anyone know how to sex them??? thats one thing I am totally unsure of regarding an arrowana?? Help if anyone can? Thanks!

**Scuba Kid** · 06-08-2005, 02:08 PM

how much is a baby black arowana?

Beerleader · 06-08-2005, 05:18 PM

I can't find any black ones where I live, maybe go on aquabid.com and see if they have any. I know they have Asians but very very very expensive! But awesome looking fish!

Although I think the last time I looked there were no blacks on there for sale either. So many ppl say they are easy to come by, but heck I've never seen one.

euRasian32 · 06-09-2005, 09:03 AM

I found some vague descriptions on sexing Aro's:
"There may be differences in body depth."
"The only sure time for determining the sex of the arowanas is when a pair is formed and starts to breed - the arowana is a mouthbrooder that spawns and raises its young in pairs. A mature fish is at least 3-4 years old and usually a pair is formed out of a group of fishes raised together."

I've heard that blacks are harder to find because of the demand.

Beerleader · 06-09-2005, 07:15 PM

Well then maybe I won't get the pleasure of knowing hehe, I don't think I want two of these big guys

To be honest I was told they would be about 2 or 3 feet at best, but I have lately read they can reach up to 5 + feet, and mine is growing so fast its obvious they get way bigger than what I was told. So now I am having to plan on 250 gals or more for the new tank instead of a 125...which is cool, but I don't think I want two fish that size

Although after watching that video you posted with all those cute lil babies I sooo would love to have those! hehe

But that person also had a pool pretty much for theirs..and I don't know if I could have that, although I sure wish.

euRasian32 · 06-10-2005, 08:09 AM

The average sizes of the 6 main arowanas:

South Americans, the silver and blacks, will mature to 48" + (Osteoglossum bicirrhosum -silver, Osteoglossum ferreirai - black).

Asians, will mature to 36" + (Scleropages formosus).

Australians will mature to 36" + (Scleropages jardini, Scleropages leichardti -spotted).

Africans,will also mature to 36" + (Heterotis niloticus).

C

Beerleader · 06-10-2005, 12:53 PM

Well of course I had to get the biggest haha. Thanks for that info!

icp · 06-11-2005, 06:11 PM

a im a little late on this post but 2 aros in the same tank will end up with one ded 90% of the time if u want more than 1 u need 5+ . a 125 is a good size for a small aro 0-12in but it will need a 6x2x2 or 180g tank for a single aro ( bigger is better). as u sed your aro is growing crazy quick it is normal to grow up to 1in a month some times even 2in but that all depends on water quality tank size an food(only last for a year or so then they slow down). babby black (3-4)in in vegas is 125-200$ .

icp · 06-11-2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerleader

I haven't ever found ANY but the silver where I live and definitely nothing cheap besides the silver. Everyone says the black ones are easy to come by but never have I seen even one around here, not even in a show tank not for sale, so I got a silver because it was the only one I could find! And I am glad, its a really great fish now that he's gotten used to me! At first he was a bit of a nutcase and spazzed out all the time, but he's alright now. And I say He but have no idea, does anyone know how to sex them??? thats one thing I am totally unsure of regarding an arrowana?? Help if anyone can? Thanks!

dident see this part ..... there is no sure way to sex an arowana till it spawns but there are manny theorys. an aro's are verry skiddish fishes ..... what specs on tank an what u feeding him ??? may want to read up on eye droop most silvers will get it ....... link below has some good info...

http://www.arofanatics.com/index.php...ght=help/right

euRasian32 · 06-14-2005, 02:50 PM

Droop eye in silvers, most likely due to genetic predisposition, from mass breeding in captivity and inbreeding. Not a fact, just a theory.

More info here, aquaticpredators.com.

Beerleader · 06-17-2005, 08:24 AM

If anyone lives near Lexington Kentucky and wants my silver arrowana I am willing to give him to a good home. My brother-in-law passed away at age 30 very suddenly and unexpected this past Saturday. We are now having to move into a bigger house because we are inheriting a 120lb pitbull/mastiff..great dog by the way. But we have 2 tanks of discus and 2 cats and honestly I am gonna have to sacrifice the arrowana due to tank size/expense. He is in a 55 gal right now but he's only 5 or 6 inches. So since now I have a huge dog to care for the arrowana is going to be out of the question considering the new tank I am gonna have to purchase to house him. I am going to try to get one of the LFS here to take him so its easier but if anyone is interested or close to me to come get him let me know please. Thanks a lot! I really love this little guy and want to make sure he gets a good home!

euRasian32 · 06-17-2005, 01:54 PM

I'm sorry for your loss. I'll light a candle and say a prayer for your family this weekend.

Would you be willing to ship the aro? I've got a jard on the way so I can't, but I could ask around for you.

C

Beerleader · 06-17-2005, 01:57 PM

Yes I would be willing to ship him if someone really wants him and the LFS won't take him, I haven't asked so I'll know by tomorrow what they say. But if they say no I will absolutely be happy to ship him if someone is willing to care for him, I just want him to be happy and taken care of, he's a great fish. I might have to ask you again how to ship, you already told me once when I inquired about moving, but now its a totally different circumstance and I've never shipped anything before but would be willing.

And thank you very much I appreciate your care and concern, thats very nice of you.

Beerleader · 06-17-2005, 10:00 PM

Here is where I explained my reasonings for needing to rid of my arrowana by the way. I know you aren't too far from Lexington and if I have trouble getting Just fish or another LFS to take. He's only about 5 or 6 inches right now.

euRasian32 · 06-19-2005, 11:36 PM

you can PM me your contact info, and i can direct people to you, if you're selling it name the price. if you're giving it away, i'll let peoples know - free silver, customer pays for shipping. Paypal would probably be the best means of receiving money.

I've never shipped a fish, you could start a new thread to get some help on that, i'm curious to know the best/exact way to do so.
From what I do know is:
Don't feed fish a couple of days prior to shipping.
Large bag 1/3 full of water
Guessing: put in box with lots of bubble packing?
Label box LIVE FISH
Go to ____ to check on next day air fees, probably need 1/ weight of package 2/ size 3/ to and fro addresses etc.

Beerleader · 06-20-2005, 08:39 AM

Eurasian email me at Ashleyrs73@yahoo.com I'll give you my addy/phone number that way. And I will be happy to give him to someone free, especially if they are willing to pay for shipping. We have ebay but don't usually use paypal, mostly cashiers check/money order etc. But I'll be glad to work anything out if someone really wants him. Thanks again for all your help!

euRasian32 · 06-20-2005, 09:41 AM

beer: email sent

Beerleader · 06-20-2005, 10:16 AM

I got it and sent you one back! And I dunno how to edit that post, its not a biggie I guess, plus its the same email that is linked to my profile for others to see, so its fine

Thanks again! I really appreciate you! Gotta go to class so see you a bit later!

06-07-2005, 07:11 PM	#1
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	Arowana...which to get? i just wondered if there are any arowanas as cheap as the silver? i dont really want a silver one, but i really want an arowana as soon as i get my big tank. what other types are as cheap? Last edited by Cichlid Man; 06-16-2005 at 02:35 PM.

06-07-2005, 09:10 PM	#2
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	None. Silvers (Osteoglossum bicirrhosum) are the cheapest and most common. Price will also depend on how you get them, either through your LFS or online/shipped. I'm partial to the jardini (Scleropages jardini), going to be the fourth and last fish I introduce to my tank. A helpfullink I found in my research, written by David Haltinner of AquaWorldMagazine. __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies Last edited by Cichlid Man; 06-16-2005 at 02:36 PM.

06-09-2005, 09:03 AM	#6
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	I found some vague descriptions on sexing Aro's: "There may be differences in body depth." "The only sure time for determining the sex of the arowanas is when a pair is formed and starts to breed - the arowana is a mouthbrooder that spawns and raises its young in pairs. A mature fish is at least 3-4 years old and usually a pair is formed out of a group of fishes raised together." I've heard that blacks are harder to find because of the demand. __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-10-2005, 08:09 AM	#8
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	The average sizes of the 6 main arowanas: South Americans, the silver and blacks, will mature to 48" + (Osteoglossum bicirrhosum -silver, Osteoglossum ferreirai - black). Asians, will mature to 36" + (Scleropages formosus). Australians will mature to 36" + (Scleropages jardini, Scleropages leichardti -spotted). Africans,will also mature to 36" + (Heterotis niloticus). C __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-11-2005, 06:11 PM	#10
icp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas , Nv Posts: 160	a im a little late on this post but 2 aros in the same tank will end up with one ded 90% of the time if u want more than 1 u need 5+ . a 125 is a good size for a small aro 0-12in but it will need a 6x2x2 or 180g tank for a single aro ( bigger is better). as u sed your aro is growing crazy quick it is normal to grow up to 1in a month some times even 2in but that all depends on water quality tank size an food(only last for a year or so then they slow down). babby black (3-4)in in vegas is 125-200$ . __________________ Last edited by icp; 06-11-2005 at 06:29 PM.

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06-07-2005, 09:58 PM	#3
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	I haven't ever found ANY but the silver where I live and definitely nothing cheap besides the silver. Everyone says the black ones are easy to come by but never have I seen even one around here, not even in a show tank not for sale, so I got a silver because it was the only one I could find! And I am glad, its a really great fish now that he's gotten used to me! At first he was a bit of a nutcase and spazzed out all the time, but he's alright now. And I say He but have no idea, does anyone know how to sex them??? thats one thing I am totally unsure of regarding an arrowana?? Help if anyone can? Thanks!

06-08-2005, 02:08 PM	#4
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,221	how much is a baby black arowana?

06-08-2005, 05:18 PM	#5
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	I can't find any black ones where I live, maybe go on aquabid.com and see if they have any. I know they have Asians but very very very expensive! But awesome looking fish! Although I think the last time I looked there were no blacks on there for sale either. So many ppl say they are easy to come by, but heck I've never seen one.

06-09-2005, 07:15 PM	#7
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Well then maybe I won't get the pleasure of knowing hehe, I don't think I want two of these big guys To be honest I was told they would be about 2 or 3 feet at best, but I have lately read they can reach up to 5 + feet, and mine is growing so fast its obvious they get way bigger than what I was told. So now I am having to plan on 250 gals or more for the new tank instead of a 125...which is cool, but I don't think I want two fish that size Although after watching that video you posted with all those cute lil babies I sooo would love to have those! hehe But that person also had a pool pretty much for theirs..and I don't know if I could have that, although I sure wish.

06-10-2005, 12:53 PM	#9
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Well of course I had to get the biggest haha. Thanks for that info!

06-14-2005, 02:50 PM	#12
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	Droop eye in silvers, most likely due to genetic predisposition, from mass breeding in captivity and inbreeding. Not a fact, just a theory. More info here, aquaticpredators.com. __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-17-2005, 08:24 AM	#13
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Dilema If anyone lives near Lexington Kentucky and wants my silver arrowana I am willing to give him to a good home. My brother-in-law passed away at age 30 very suddenly and unexpected this past Saturday. We are now having to move into a bigger house because we are inheriting a 120lb pitbull/mastiff..great dog by the way. But we have 2 tanks of discus and 2 cats and honestly I am gonna have to sacrifice the arrowana due to tank size/expense. He is in a 55 gal right now but he's only 5 or 6 inches. So since now I have a huge dog to care for the arrowana is going to be out of the question considering the new tank I am gonna have to purchase to house him. I am going to try to get one of the LFS here to take him so its easier but if anyone is interested or close to me to come get him let me know please. Thanks a lot! I really love this little guy and want to make sure he gets a good home!

06-17-2005, 01:54 PM	#14
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	I'm sorry for your loss. I'll light a candle and say a prayer for your family this weekend. Would you be willing to ship the aro? I've got a jard on the way so I can't, but I could ask around for you. C __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-17-2005, 01:57 PM	#15
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Yes I would be willing to ship him if someone really wants him and the LFS won't take him, I haven't asked so I'll know by tomorrow what they say. But if they say no I will absolutely be happy to ship him if someone is willing to care for him, I just want him to be happy and taken care of, he's a great fish. I might have to ask you again how to ship, you already told me once when I inquired about moving, but now its a totally different circumstance and I've never shipped anything before but would be willing. And thank you very much I appreciate your care and concern, thats very nice of you.

06-17-2005, 10:00 PM	#16
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Petmax Here is where I explained my reasonings for needing to rid of my arrowana by the way. I know you aren't too far from Lexington and if I have trouble getting Just fish or another LFS to take. He's only about 5 or 6 inches right now.

06-19-2005, 11:36 PM	#17
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	you can PM me your contact info, and i can direct people to you, if you're selling it name the price. if you're giving it away, i'll let peoples know - free silver, customer pays for shipping. Paypal would probably be the best means of receiving money. I've never shipped a fish, you could start a new thread to get some help on that, i'm curious to know the best/exact way to do so. From what I do know is: Don't feed fish a couple of days prior to shipping. Large bag 1/3 full of water Guessing: put in box with lots of bubble packing? Label box LIVE FISH Go to ____ to check on next day air fees, probably need 1/ weight of package 2/ size 3/ to and fro addresses etc. __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-20-2005, 08:39 AM	#18
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	Eurasian email me at Ashleyrs73@yahoo.com I'll give you my addy/phone number that way. And I will be happy to give him to someone free, especially if they are willing to pay for shipping. We have ebay but don't usually use paypal, mostly cashiers check/money order etc. But I'll be glad to work anything out if someone really wants him. Thanks again for all your help!

06-20-2005, 09:41 AM	#19
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	beer: email sent __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

06-20-2005, 10:16 AM	#20
Beerleader Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Age: 35 Posts: 382	I got it and sent you one back! And I dunno how to edit that post, its not a biggie I guess, plus its the same email that is linked to my profile for others to see, so its fine Thanks again! I really appreciate you! Gotta go to class so see you a bit later!

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