info on reefs plz

Eddie Would GO · 08-23-2006, 05:35 AM

hey,

i was wondering if you guys could teach me all the basic of making reefs, im looking to get into them but i wanna do my reseach before hand, so if you could plz tell me the basic such as lighting,food,animals,cost ect that would be awsum.

cheers

**Damon** · 08-23-2006, 07:09 AM

There is no way we can teach the basics of reefkeeping. That would require several books. Your best bet is to hit the internet and read for a cpl of weeks. Then get a good book and read it a cpl of times. There is no set way to run a reef. A lot depends on the inhabitants in it and there are thousands of choices.

Reefneck · 08-23-2006, 07:52 AM

Amen Brother

**Fishfirst** · 08-23-2006, 10:04 AM

lol too little info for me to even start. I would get the book "the conscientious marine aquarist" by bob fenner and go from there What species did you want to have? What is your budget? how big of a tank are you planning?

**Scuba Kid** · 08-23-2006, 06:29 PM

I second the suggestion to get Bob Fenner's "The Constientious Marine Aquarist." Awesome book, TONS of great information. Wet Web Media (www.wetwebmedia.com) has a huge database of tons of articles and FAQs. I'm sure you can find tons of info there.

Eddie Would GO · 08-23-2006, 11:57 PM

ok,

thanks for all the advice but i just wanted to know the ''basic'' just the simple things you guys kno

cheers

Reefneck · 08-24-2006, 07:32 AM

BASICS of a Reef Tank:

Tank
Stand
Water
Salt Mix
Heater(s)
Filter
Pumps
Powerheads
Lighting
Animals
Food
Test Kits
Deep Pockets
Patience
Knowledge
Books
Magazines
Reef Keeping Friends
www.fishforums.com

flamingo · 08-24-2006, 08:37 AM

IMHO, having some experience with general saltwater tank maintenance helps out greatly if you haven't already.

Personally I don't have full blown reef systems..yet, i've just started getting into corals lmao. If I started like that right of the bat I would of killed everything, but since I already had some experience with saltwater, all I had to do was set it in there and they turned out okay (you know what I mean...hopefully).

Another word of advice, well two, do as much research as you can, and secondly..don't start off by joining a fully reef orientated forum right away. Most places will help, but i've learned a few others get quite competitive and argue more than help :P. Try reading they're articles though..some pretty good info usually. The big discussions are also informative..sometimes lol.

**Fishfirst** · 08-24-2006, 03:29 PM

A few tips as you think about your setup

don't skimp on equipment, you'll end up buying replacements
get a good skimmer (such as a corallife super skimmer, or ASM, Aqua C)

go all out on lighting (you'll end up upgrading sooner or later)
Get metal halide, or VHO around 5-8 watts per gallon

Eddie Would GO · 08-24-2006, 04:00 PM

cheers boys thanks for that info and just one more how much $$$ are we looking at, i heard its a fiar bit?

cheeers

**Damon** · 08-24-2006, 04:48 PM

Start at $1,000.00. Then think about buying inhabitants for the tank.

**Fishfirst** · 08-24-2006, 04:54 PM

quick question... what size reef tank are we talking here? we need more info from your side of the story to help you in any way.

Eddie Would GO · 08-24-2006, 11:33 PM

ok dam they are expensive ive got a 50 gallon tank, 175 liters but im upgrading very soon to a bigger one

cheers

**Damon** · 08-25-2006, 07:16 AM

Here's an Idea of ...........
Liverock & baserock (30/70 ratio) 100lbs $450.00 (You wont need this much in a 50 but expect to pay ~4.00 a pound.
Skimmer $125.00 on sale (Normally $170.00)
Sump/Overflow $130.00
Lighting expect to spend ~$350.00 here
R.O. Unit Must have for reef tanks ~200.00

Thats not including livesand, powerheads for water movement, Heaters, plants for sump, and whatnot. We havent begun to stock the tank yet either.

I (we) don't want to discourage anyone from a reef tank. I got hooked listen to Marty, Reefneck, Fishfirst, T.O.S. and others here. Just want you to be aware of the initial cost to undertake a project such as a reef tank. You can always start with fish only or FOWLR and upgrade later.

My tank right now has been cycled for ~2 months. It has a cleaning crew in it and 4 very small frags. Its a very slow process.

08-23-2006, 05:35 AM	#1
Eddie Would GO Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 17 Posts: 69	info on reefs plz hey, i was wondering if you guys could teach me all the basic of making reefs, im looking to get into them but i wanna do my reseach before hand, so if you could plz tell me the basic such as lighting,food,animals,cost ect that would be awsum. cheers

08-23-2006, 07:09 AM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	There is no way we can teach the basics of reefkeeping. That would require several books. Your best bet is to hit the internet and read for a cpl of weeks. Then get a good book and read it a cpl of times. There is no set way to run a reef. A lot depends on the inhabitants in it and there are thousands of choices. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

08-23-2006, 07:52 AM	#3
Reefneck Senior Aquarist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Near a Coral Reef Age: 47 Posts: 1,351	Amen Brother __________________ I wonder how much salt mix I would need to turn our in ground pool into a Reef.

08-23-2006, 10:04 AM	#4
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	lol too little info for me to even start. I would get the book "the conscientious marine aquarist" by bob fenner and go from there What species did you want to have? What is your budget? how big of a tank are you planning? __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-23-2006, 06:29 PM	#5
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,224	I second the suggestion to get Bob Fenner's "The Constientious Marine Aquarist." Awesome book, TONS of great information. Wet Web Media (www.wetwebmedia.com) has a huge database of tons of articles and FAQs. I'm sure you can find tons of info there. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

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08-23-2006, 11:57 PM	#6
Eddie Would GO Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 17 Posts: 69	ok, thanks for all the advice but i just wanted to know the ''basic'' just the simple things you guys kno cheers

08-24-2006, 07:32 AM	#7
Reefneck Senior Aquarist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Near a Coral Reef Age: 47 Posts: 1,351	BASICS of a Reef Tank: Tank Stand Water Salt Mix Heater(s) Filter Pumps Powerheads Lighting Animals Food Test Kits Deep Pockets Patience Knowledge Books Magazines Reef Keeping Friends www.fishforums.com __________________ I wonder how much salt mix I would need to turn our in ground pool into a Reef. Last edited by Reefneck; 08-24-2006 at 07:34 AM.

08-24-2006, 08:37 AM	#8
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 17 Posts: 1,899	IMHO, having some experience with general saltwater tank maintenance helps out greatly if you haven't already. Personally I don't have full blown reef systems..yet, i've just started getting into corals lmao. If I started like that right of the bat I would of killed everything, but since I already had some experience with saltwater, all I had to do was set it in there and they turned out okay (you know what I mean...hopefully). Another word of advice, well two, do as much research as you can, and secondly..don't start off by joining a fully reef orientated forum right away. Most places will help, but i've learned a few others get quite competitive and argue more than help :P. Try reading they're articles though..some pretty good info usually. The big discussions are also informative..sometimes lol. __________________ If you put "u" instead of typing out the actual, shocking, three letter word... i'm not going to read your ramblings. I'm so behind it's not even funny.

08-24-2006, 03:29 PM	#9
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	A few tips as you think about your setup don't skimp on equipment, you'll end up buying replacements get a good skimmer (such as a corallife super skimmer, or ASM, Aqua C) go all out on lighting (you'll end up upgrading sooner or later) Get metal halide, or VHO around 5-8 watts per gallon __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-24-2006, 04:00 PM	#10
Eddie Would GO Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 17 Posts: 69	cheers boys thanks for that info and just one more how much $$$ are we looking at, i heard its a fiar bit? cheeers

08-24-2006, 04:48 PM	#11
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Start at $1,000.00. Then think about buying inhabitants for the tank. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

08-24-2006, 04:54 PM	#12
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	quick question... what size reef tank are we talking here? we need more info from your side of the story to help you in any way. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-24-2006, 11:33 PM	#13
Eddie Would GO Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 17 Posts: 69	ok dam they are expensive ive got a 50 gallon tank, 175 liters but im upgrading very soon to a bigger one cheers

08-25-2006, 07:16 AM	#14
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Here's an Idea of ........... Liverock & baserock (30/70 ratio) 100lbs $450.00 (You wont need this much in a 50 but expect to pay ~4.00 a pound. Skimmer $125.00 on sale (Normally $170.00) Sump/Overflow $130.00 Lighting expect to spend ~$350.00 here R.O. Unit Must have for reef tanks ~200.00 Thats not including livesand, powerheads for water movement, Heaters, plants for sump, and whatnot. We havent begun to stock the tank yet either. I (we) don't want to discourage anyone from a reef tank. I got hooked listen to Marty, Reefneck, Fishfirst, T.O.S. and others here. Just want you to be aware of the initial cost to undertake a project such as a reef tank. You can always start with fish only or FOWLR and upgrade later. My tank right now has been cycled for ~2 months. It has a cleaning crew in it and 4 very small frags. Its a very slow process. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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