Hooray For REEF! Have a few ?'s

**Fishfirst** · 06-13-2005, 10:51 AM

Okay this is a run down of what I got from the frag swap the yesturday/ Pulsing Xenia, Red Mushrooms, Green Mushrooms, Neon Green Zoanthids, 2 trumpets, and some snails... BUT the only thing that seems to be opening are the mushrooms and pulsing xenia... I'm wondering if I can coax the zoanthids and trumpets with placing them in more flow or less flow or up higher in the water column. I'm quite new at this coral thing, but I acclimated over 3 hours for each frag. The tank is a little cloudy from adding some live sand three days ago... is this a factor in them opening or not? Should I stop the powerheads flow so that the sand can settle faster or keep them on so the sand doesn't smother the corals?

**TheOldSalt** · 06-13-2005, 12:23 PM

Leave them running. There is no reliable way of knowing if the sand is bothering them since you have no way of really knowing what the conditions were like in their original tanks.

Corals pretty much acclimate themselves in about the same way anemones do. They'll open up when they feel like it. The outer layer of cells is of course at the mercy of the new conditions, but the inner layers they can protect to an extent as they see fit.
One factor to consider is what the conditions were like in their original tank. If the difference is very great in your tank, they'll take a bit longer to adjust to changes in light intensity and water flow. If you don't know what they're used to, you can try moving them around a bit or just leave them alone to adjust to things. A big change in lighting sometimes results in a color change, so that can be a clue once they finally do open.

I guess what I'm saying is that trying to coax them into opening is a waste of time unless you really think that something is very wrong with the place they are currently positioned. You might get them to open a bit quicker, but they should open wherever they are anyway eventually.
Oh, another thing-- the 3 hour acclimation bit isn't really worth the bother. Yes, corals are supposed to be super sensitive and such, but the truth is that they're really pretty tough and resilient. As you work with them more and more you'll find that their ability to adapt quickly to rapid small changes is pretty remarkable. That's no reason to get careless, of course, but you don't need to make yourself sick with worry. The stress of attending the frag swap was worse on them than moving from tank-to-tank would be.

**Osiris** · 06-13-2005, 05:05 PM

Pretty cool i would be looking forward to seeing that neon green zoo when it opens! Have u seen their planning another (maybe, hopefully) for later in the year?

I picked up some zoo's too, and had same thing with two frags still closed from yesterday, figured give it time, my xenia took awhile to begin full standing and pulsing...

You going to the BBQ at end of month? they are having a raffle i believe or something...

**Fishfirst** · 06-13-2005, 11:20 PM

the xenia was pulsing in the bag when I got it... ummm don't believe I'm going to the bbq, just too much to do... if work and other stuff doesn't get in the way, then maybe I'll show... its just such a long drive.

**Fishfirst** · 06-15-2005, 10:21 AM

so now some of my zoa is out, and some of my trumpets... how much flow should they get?

hail_sniper · 06-16-2005, 12:03 AM

slow/medium from what i remember

**Fishfirst** · 06-16-2005, 02:16 AM

kewl its what I got them under.

06-13-2005, 10:51 AM	#1
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	Hooray For REEF! Have a few ?'s Okay this is a run down of what I got from the frag swap the yesturday/ Pulsing Xenia, Red Mushrooms, Green Mushrooms, Neon Green Zoanthids, 2 trumpets, and some snails... BUT the only thing that seems to be opening are the mushrooms and pulsing xenia... I'm wondering if I can coax the zoanthids and trumpets with placing them in more flow or less flow or up higher in the water column. I'm quite new at this coral thing, but I acclimated over 3 hours for each frag. The tank is a little cloudy from adding some live sand three days ago... is this a factor in them opening or not? Should I stop the powerheads flow so that the sand can settle faster or keep them on so the sand doesn't smother the corals? __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

06-13-2005, 05:05 PM	#3
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,693	Pretty cool i would be looking forward to seeing that neon green zoo when it opens! Have u seen their planning another (maybe, hopefully) for later in the year? I picked up some zoo's too, and had same thing with two frags still closed from yesterday, figured give it time, my xenia took awhile to begin full standing and pulsing... You going to the BBQ at end of month? they are having a raffle i believe or something... __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

06-13-2005, 11:20 PM	#4
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	the xenia was pulsing in the bag when I got it... ummm don't believe I'm going to the bbq, just too much to do... if work and other stuff doesn't get in the way, then maybe I'll show... its just such a long drive. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

06-15-2005, 10:21 AM	#5
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	so now some of my zoa is out, and some of my trumpets... how much flow should they get? __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

06-16-2005, 12:03 AM	#6
hail_sniper The Frugal Reefer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Downey, Ca Posts: 195	slow/medium from what i remember __________________ Sam H. Member of MASLAC 30gal reef 90gal planning

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06-13-2005, 12:23 PM	#2
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,254	Leave them running. There is no reliable way of knowing if the sand is bothering them since you have no way of really knowing what the conditions were like in their original tanks. Corals pretty much acclimate themselves in about the same way anemones do. They'll open up when they feel like it. The outer layer of cells is of course at the mercy of the new conditions, but the inner layers they can protect to an extent as they see fit. One factor to consider is what the conditions were like in their original tank. If the difference is very great in your tank, they'll take a bit longer to adjust to changes in light intensity and water flow. If you don't know what they're used to, you can try moving them around a bit or just leave them alone to adjust to things. A big change in lighting sometimes results in a color change, so that can be a clue once they finally do open. I guess what I'm saying is that trying to coax them into opening is a waste of time unless you really think that something is very wrong with the place they are currently positioned. You might get them to open a bit quicker, but they should open wherever they are anyway eventually. Oh, another thing-- the 3 hour acclimation bit isn't really worth the bother. Yes, corals are supposed to be super sensitive and such, but the truth is that they're really pretty tough and resilient. As you work with them more and more you'll find that their ability to adapt quickly to rapid small changes is pretty remarkable. That's no reason to get careless, of course, but you don't need to make yourself sick with worry. The stress of attending the frag swap was worse on them than moving from tank-to-tank would be.

06-16-2005, 02:16 AM	#7
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,506	kewl its what I got them under. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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