filters?

fireman93 · 08-12-2005, 08:19 AM

i have a 125 gallon saltwater tank, 120- 130 ibs. live rock, sand and crushed coral. and a magnum 350 filter with bio wheel. i have to change carbon almost every 2 weeks to maintain clear water(and no algae) would a "sump" filter give me any better results. if so what kind what type?

euRasian32 · 08-12-2005, 09:47 AM

I would say yes, you'd get better results with a wet-dry/sump filter. I built my own in the past, so I don't have any recommendations for what's on the market now. You also have to look into an overflow box, assuming that you don't have built in overflows.

You could get another magnum 350 deluxe system, but i'd look into one of these if you don't go with a wet-dry, filter with protein skimmer and uv sterilizer.
Via Aqua
I've seen a different one too, but this is the only reference I've seen online so far.

**Fishfirst** · 08-12-2005, 09:56 AM

RO/DI water works too. Do you currently have a skimmer?

wrasser · 08-12-2005, 11:31 AM

fireman93 what else do you have in the tank?

**TheOldSalt** · 08-12-2005, 11:39 AM

A tank like that with only a single Magnum 350 to run it?
YIKES!

Trickle filter = Nitrate factory.
SO much nitrate, in fact, that not even all that rock can remove it. Trickle filters for reefs fell out of favor years ago.

Add another canister for mechanical filtering, and clean it weekly.
Get a big skimmer, too, and watch how your tank comes to life.
Together, these will increase your water flow, which is also woefully inadequate in a tank with only one canister on it.

For the ultimate in filtration, get yourself a big Ecosystem Filter
( www.ecosystemaquarium.com ).
These things are phenomenal, and the effect they have on areef tank is almost magical, boosting growth & survival rates by 90% over conventional methods. Corals grow & spawn, fish color up & stay healthy, the water stays perfect...it took long enough to invent this method, but it renders all the others obsolete.

**Damon** · 08-12-2005, 11:51 PM

What is the price range? The site (although informative) didn't even give a ballpark figure).

**TheOldSalt** · 08-13-2005, 02:00 AM

They're pricey. $300 or so to start.
Worth every penny.

fishn00b · 02-20-2006, 06:07 PM

If you check out www.marinedepot.com, they offer a sump kit model for the 75 - 95 gallon setups, and they are $495, I believe. For a larger sump model (one for over 125 gallons) they run around $800. I'm pretty sure of these prices, but I'm just going off the top of my head.

08-12-2005, 08:19 AM	#1
fireman93 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 1 User Feedback: (0)	filters? i have a 125 gallon saltwater tank, 120- 130 ibs. live rock, sand and crushed coral. and a magnum 350 filter with bio wheel. i have to change carbon almost every 2 weeks to maintain clear water(and no algae) would a "sump" filter give me any better results. if so what kind what type?

08-12-2005, 09:47 AM	#2
euRasian32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 751 User Feedback: (2)	I would say yes, you'd get better results with a wet-dry/sump filter. I built my own in the past, so I don't have any recommendations for what's on the market now. You also have to look into an overflow box, assuming that you don't have built in overflows. You could get another magnum 350 deluxe system, but i'd look into one of these if you don't go with a wet-dry, filter with protein skimmer and uv sterilizer. Via Aqua I've seen a different one too, but this is the only reference I've seen online so far. __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

08-12-2005, 09:56 AM	#3
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	RO/DI water works too. Do you currently have a skimmer? __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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08-12-2005, 11:39 AM	#5
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,034 User Feedback: (5)	A tank like that with only a single Magnum 350 to run it? YIKES! Trickle filter = Nitrate factory. SO much nitrate, in fact, that not even all that rock can remove it. Trickle filters for reefs fell out of favor years ago. Add another canister for mechanical filtering, and clean it weekly. Get a big skimmer, too, and watch how your tank comes to life. Together, these will increase your water flow, which is also woefully inadequate in a tank with only one canister on it. For the ultimate in filtration, get yourself a big Ecosystem Filter ( www.ecosystemaquarium.com ). These things are phenomenal, and the effect they have on areef tank is almost magical, boosting growth & survival rates by 90% over conventional methods. Corals grow & spawn, fish color up & stay healthy, the water stays perfect...it took long enough to invent this method, but it renders all the others obsolete.

08-13-2005, 02:00 AM	#7
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,034 User Feedback: (5)	They're pricey. $300 or so to start. Worth every penny.

02-20-2006, 06:07 PM	#8
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 401 User Feedback: (0)	If you check out www.marinedepot.com, they offer a sump kit model for the 75 - 95 gallon setups, and they are $495, I believe. For a larger sump model (one for over 125 gallons) they run around $800. I'm pretty sure of these prices, but I'm just going off the top of my head.

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