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Old 02-27-2006, 12:30 PM   #21
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on topic, i love the royal gramma, (thats it right? lol) cant wait to get one of my own.
The bottom pic is definately my Royal Gramma. She's a beauty. Loves to be cleaned by the Cleaner Shrimp. And stands her ground against the others as well.
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:28 PM   #22
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I really like your wrasse, reefneck!


That royal gramma is really pretty!
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:03 PM   #23
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I really like your wrasse, reefneck!


That royal gramma is really pretty!
We really need a :blush: smiley!
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:18 AM   #24
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No offence, but I don't see the point in breeding all red clowns. The striped ones are much nicer in my opinion. Why create something that looks less colourful than the origional?
I know that obviously you like your fish as you bought them. But I feel just because people CAN breed a clown without stripes (which were origionally culls) doesn't mean they should.

The same goes wish a lot of freshwater species. Take the tiger barb for example.

Wild form:

Green cultivated formyuck!)


Also another one of my favourites, the dwarf gourami.
Now who would want to change the colors of this fish which in my opinion is the most colorful of all freshwater fish:

The answer is people who breed poor specimens like this which they call the "neon" dwarf gourami.
Red "neon"

Blue "neon" (Pointless)

Now have a look at a wild type and a cultivated form head to head. I know which one I would have in my tank.

On the plus side though, there are few sucesses out there and these are some of the cultivated forms that I'd like to share wish you that I approve of. And I think they all worthy additions to an aquarium.

Wild rainbow shark:

Albino form. Look at the amazing contrst in the fins!

Ancistrus

Long finned lion form.


And there is a strain of tiger barb that I approve of since it atains the natural barring:


I don't know if many people will agree with me on this one, but it's a point that I thought you may be interested in.
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Old 02-28-2006, 06:56 AM   #25
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There are not "Culls" they were bred to be naked on purpose! They are slightly rare in the industry and they are really a beautiful fish. Not "Ugly" like the examples you have displayed.

IF you personally don't like them that's fine. Some people don't know they are bred that way purposely. There is also a Gold Stripe variety or the Maroon Clownfish and a White Strip Variety. Does that make one uglier than the other?

Sorry to rant but I went to alot of trouble to get these beautiful animals and I am very proud of them! It really hurt my feelings they way you bad mouthed them.

Have a good day

P.S. I never planned to breed....I just wanted a pair to watch the interaction.

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Old 02-28-2006, 02:41 PM   #26
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Cool it Keri.-Lydia
Scuse me? Didn't know there was anything that needed "Cool"ing here! I was only pointing out facts that they are bred that way and are NOT culls and only stated that it hurt my feelings. I did not attack anyone or say one thing wrong so why should I have to "cool it"?
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:47 PM   #27
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dont make me get in the middle of this children.... haha just kiddin, in defense of the gouramis. some of the neons they have are pretty spectacular, that pic doenst do them justice, neither do fish stores, i bought a powder blue, thought it was pretty, but when i got it home, and it colored up a little more, it was crazy looking, very very pretty fish.
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Scuse me? Didn't know there was anything that needed "Cool"ing here! I was only pointing out facts that they are bred that way and are NOT culls and only stated that it hurt my feelings. I did not attack anyone or say one thing wrong so why should I have to "cool it"?


Sorry. ..................

The cool it was just meant as "Don't worry about it it's not a big deal, it's just his opinion". I wasn't saying you needed to stop "attacking" someone. I'm not a moderator in SW so I wouldn't be the one telling you to quit "attacking someone" anyways
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:55 PM   #29
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dont make me get in the middle of this children.... haha just kiddin, in defense of the gouramis. some of the neons they have are pretty spectacular, that pic doenst do them justice, neither do fish stores, i bought a powder blue, thought it was pretty, but when i got it home, and it colored up a little more, it was crazy looking, very very pretty fish.

I agree! I saw the most beautiful one ever at Meijer!! I wanted it so0o bad.
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Old 03-05-2006, 07:18 PM   #30
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on topic, i love the royal gramma, (thats it right? lol) cant wait to get one of my own.
Yep, Thats a Gramma. I love that fish. He goes to my cleaner shrimp often and gets spun around just like the Gramma did with the cleaner shrimp in "Nemo". lol

Hmmm, Seems I answered this one twice! I blame it on my head injury! Really!
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Old 03-05-2006, 07:20 PM   #31
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Default 3rd "Streaker" added to the tank...Totally Naked!

I finally got another "Streaker"! I found a completely naked clown today and grabbed him! Was the only one that was totally naked in the whole tank.

Check him out and remember, No one under 18 should look as these pics are REALLY XXX Rated!
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Old 03-05-2006, 07:29 PM   #32
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It is indeed a very controversial fish. I'd say if you don't have luck with this one, don't get another. The more power to you if you can keep this one alive for quite a while say 4-5 years. Although cleaner wrasses can pester fish to death with their cleaning efforts, and fish particularly not ones that associate with them (not in their geographic distribution) are often very stressed out by their behavior.
I agree with you 100% here. He's still doing fine and does his job but he also harasses my feather dusters and also the fish sometimes. My yellow tang goes to him wanting to be cleaned but he ignores him so the tang goes to the cleaner shrimp.

The Cleaner Wrasse seems to be a bit of a bully IMO and I would not get another one if this one does not make it although he seems in great health still.
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Old 03-05-2006, 07:51 PM   #33
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Sorry. ..................

The cool it was just meant as "Don't worry about it it's not a big deal, it's just his opinion". I wasn't saying you needed to stop "attacking" someone. I'm not a moderator in SW so I wouldn't be the one telling you to quit "attacking someone" anyways
Gotcha, I think we are all still a little jumpy after the episode with you remember who.

I was only defending my opinion and I meant nothing improper toward him.

Actually, I agree with him almost 100% because cross breeding and genetic engineering really does ruin alot of beautiful animals, not just fish.

So ok, Let's get back to the pornographic pictures and have some fun again all.

And Lydia, Quit looking at my Wrasse!
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Old 03-05-2006, 08:56 PM   #34
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I've spawned Cleaner Wrasses, and have some pics to post, I suppose, but I lost a dozen specimens in the same batch before finding a pair which would survive. I can never recommend this species, but have to admit that they can be kept with a bunch of really big "IF's" . They're like Moorish Idols...on rare occasion you get lucky.
Nice full-nude clown, by the way!
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:01 AM   #35
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Your wrasse is so fine though! I am having trouble not staring at it.

Neat clownfish by the way.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:24 AM   #36
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Well, Lost toally naked guy #2!

The damn cleaner wrasse harrased the little guy so bad till he dove into the Carpet anemone and was so stressed he could not free himself. Before the carpet anemone could eat him I rescued him. I placed him in the fuge and held the little guy in my hand for about a half hour until he passed. He actually died in my hand. Ever seen a grown man cry? I did. Not because of the $30 I lost but because I really loved the little guy.

I am not getting any more naked clowns until that blasted Wrasse is out of my tank! The carpet Anemone is gone today as I sold it to my mother. I am getting a 7-8" sebae anemone tomorrow for my semi naked clowns. No More Carpets for me and never again will I have a Cleaner wrasse!

I won't kill the wrasse when/if I can catch it even though I would love to....I just can't do that to an animal but I will make sure whoever gets him knows his attitude.

My wife told me I should let the carpet anemone eat the clownfish after he died but I could not stand the thought of it. He has a nice plot of ground in our nicest flower bed where the Red Fern Grows.
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