fake anenomes?

leveldrummer · 12-14-2005, 11:49 AM

ive seen countless fake corals and plants, im looking for fake anemones.. bult tips preferably, has anyone ran into any of these on the vast internet? im looking for some that might move in the currents. does anyone have any of them? and are they life like?

N1z · 12-14-2005, 11:53 AM

you can get like silk coral plants like freshwater ones they look ok... but i prefer real macoy!

**Fishfirst** · 12-14-2005, 12:10 PM

good choice with the fake anemones vs the real ones, they are much hardier and don't need that expensive lighting and care! There are several you can find at your local petco/petsmart/lfs which are made from a soft plastic.

leveldrummer · 12-14-2005, 11:24 PM

ive seen a few in pet stores and they always seemed kinda fake looking, i was looking for something really real looking. i like the living color website for corals, i was just hoping some one might have heard of some new stuff thats "the coolest new thing"

**Cichlid Man** · 06-25-2006, 11:07 AM

I have a fake purple tipped one and a red white tipped one. They look quite realistic, especially in the flow of my power filter. I had a marine expert come in my house. He said, nice purle tipped, they are quite rare, where did you buy it? I said from the decor section of Southern aquatics.lol
That fooled him!

flamingo · 06-25-2006, 11:12 AM

Well, not all anemones need VERY high lighting IMO, may be just my parents luck but we have some type of anemone under NO floursecents and it's healthy and growing. What suprised me even more was that the clarkii clown took right to it!

IMHO most fake anemones look ugly, supposedly if you position them right they can look pretty cool though.

TheReefAddict · 11-21-2006, 06:48 PM

I have not yet seen a fake anenome move like the real ones. You can get a condy anenome for probably 10 bux at the lfs. I have 3 live anenomes, piece of cake to maintain check out my avatar..

Puffer Pita · 11-21-2006, 06:55 PM

I just found and bought a bunch on Ebay last night.

**Fishfirst** · 11-21-2006, 08:46 PM

Sorry but I have to disagree that anemones don't need high light. You may be keeping them now under N.O.'s but anemones are different than your normal coral or fish... they die SLOWLY... over the period of months to a year. Feeding them can keep them going for even longer than that but eventually they will die... An anemone in the wild lives for hundreds of years and can techniqually live forever due to asextual reproduction, so even if you've had them for several years its not much to boast about. Sorry but I stand by my statement as I've seen plenty of anemones at my LFS go and die after months of intensive care...

With metal halides and feedings I've seen them split... they move too much to go into my tanks though.

harif87 · 11-21-2006, 10:40 PM

I second what fish first said. It may be months before you even see signs of a dieing anemone. And by the time it shows signs it is too late to do anything about.
Anemones are delicate creatures. They need intense lighting and most of them wont tollerate any other light but bright metal halides. Only few species do well under fluorescent. They are very delicate creatures and can easily get damaged due to sub-perfect water conditions. And like it was said above, keeping them for several years is far from an accomplishment, they do outlive humans in the wild. Unless you could provide the utmost ideal living conditions, i would advise you not to get too attatched to em.

What anems do you have? I mean the latin name, since common names are usually loosely thrown around and often given to the wrong species. Also what lighting you got over those babies?

TheReefAddict · 11-22-2006, 09:16 AM

I agree fish, light is necessary, but anenomes would be fine in a low light tank as long as the water is optimum and the diet is consistent. The light mainly maintains the beautiful pigments of color.

harif87 · 11-22-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReefAddict

I agree fish, light is necessary, but anenomes would be fine in a low light tank as long as the water is optimum and the diet is consistent. The light mainly maintains the beautiful pigments of color.

Anemones mostly feed off the by-products of the photosynthesis done by its zooxathallae, which is the photosynthetic cells that live within the anemone's tissue that give the anemone's that brownish hue. If you dont supply the zooxanthallae with enough light then the anemone goes hungry. The colors of the zooxanthallae arent just for aesthetics. If your anemone bleaches due to lack of light then, unless you hand feed it untill its zooxanthallae grows back -which of course you will need stronger lighting- then you can kiss him goodbye in a short time.

What kind of lights do you have?

Ice · 11-22-2006, 09:52 AM

Cool ! That sounds like a nice alternative to the real thing. Has anyone used the fakes anemones and had their clowns host them ? Won't algae over run them and will the rubber release any harmfum chemicals to the tank with the salt water being aggressive ? Just a thought.

harif87 · 11-22-2006, 10:41 AM

Theyre usually made of plastics which wont release anything harmful into the aquarium. Clowns woul dpretty much host anything, from HOB filter intakes to carpet anemones.

TheReefAddict · 11-22-2006, 11:28 AM

I have about 80 watts of light..Yes anemones need at least some type of uv light..the zooxanthallae would die off if it had none eventually in time. With low light levels it still can survive.[IMG]e:\my_pix\1122061147[/IMG]

**Fishfirst** · 11-22-2006, 11:51 AM

May I ask... how long have you had your anemones? What gives you the right to say they don't need intense lighting if you haven't had them for long periods of time? A year is but a blink of time for an anemone... which you have so adimantly talked about being experienced for one year... You know what I'd like to see? An anemone that has lived 10 years under inadequate lighting... if you give me an example of that, then I might change my mind.

This of course excludes the anemones that don't need proper lighting such as rock anemones.

TheReefAddict · 11-22-2006, 04:34 PM

Calm down little guy..I've had mine for about 7 months...They have no sign of discoloration from since I first purchased them. They have also grown quite a bit..10 years ago you were still in middle school..so whats your point? Common sense

harif87 · 11-22-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReefAddict

I have about 80 watts of light..Yes anemones need at least some type of uv light..the zooxanthallae would die off if it had none eventually in time. With low light levels it still can survive.[IMG]e:\my_pix\1122061147[/IMG]

80 watts?! Im sorry but that is way too little to keep even the easiest to keep anemones. BTAs need at least 200 watts MINIMUM with absolutely pristine water conditions to thrive. Ask around (besides for the people at your lfs) and youll find that 80 watts is wat way too little for any anemone. I take it that you have NO bulbs over your tank? Also what types of corals to you keep?

Sorry, dont mean to sound hostile, but 3, what looks to be decently sized anems, under 80 watts of light is unheard of.

And also, like we said, 7 months is not long at all. It could be 9 months or even more before you even see signs of a deterriorating anemone. Also they live for lonng amounts of time. The anemone you see in florida today could have been seen by colombus! 7 months is really not long. If you kept him for 10 years without a problem then i would be certain that he was fine. Otherwise, its almost impossible to tell.

TheReefAddict · 11-22-2006, 05:32 PM

They probaly survived this long because the light fixture is prob 5 inches away from them..I don't have much coral...just a couple of shrooms due to the fact that the anenomes would rape them hahahahaha. I definately want to get more wattage but I still think they would survive under my 80 watts hehehe...Even masters with the most optimal light and water conditions experience death of anenomes.. when you captivate something from the wild it is never a sure thing anyway.

TheReefAddict · 11-22-2006, 05:32 PM

They probaly survived this long because the light fixture is prob 5 inches away from them..I don't have much coral...just a couple of shrooms due to the fact that the anenomes would rape them hahahahaha. I definately want to get more wattage but I still think they would survive under my 80 watts hehehe...Even masters with the most optimal light and water conditions experience death of anenomes.. when you captivate something from the wild it is never a sure thing anyway.

12-14-2005, 11:49 AM	#1
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933 User Feedback: (1)	fake anenomes? ive seen countless fake corals and plants, im looking for fake anemones.. bult tips preferably, has anyone ran into any of these on the vast internet? im looking for some that might move in the currents. does anyone have any of them? and are they life like?

12-14-2005, 11:53 AM	#2
N1z Beyond the rulz Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Age: 19 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	you can get like silk coral plants like freshwater ones they look ok... but i prefer real macoy! __________________ 32G marine tank 6 kilos of live rock 1 cleaner shrimp 1 half black dwarf angel mixed with red line dwarf 2 Green chromosis 1 pink spotted goby 1 sand sifting starfish 2 neon blue hermits

12-14-2005, 12:10 PM	#3
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	good choice with the fake anemones vs the real ones, they are much hardier and don't need that expensive lighting and care! There are several you can find at your local petco/petsmart/lfs which are made from a soft plastic. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

06-25-2006, 11:07 AM	#5
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100 User Feedback: (0)	I have a fake purple tipped one and a red white tipped one. They look quite realistic, especially in the flow of my power filter. I had a marine expert come in my house. He said, nice purle tipped, they are quite rare, where did you buy it? I said from the decor section of Southern aquatics.lol That fooled him! __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

06-25-2006, 11:12 AM	#6
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 16 Posts: 1,895 User Feedback: (2)	Well, not all anemones need VERY high lighting IMO, may be just my parents luck but we have some type of anemone under NO floursecents and it's healthy and growing. What suprised me even more was that the clarkii clown took right to it! IMHO most fake anemones look ugly, supposedly if you position them right they can look pretty cool though. __________________ If you put "u" instead of typing out the actual, shocking, three letter word... i'm not going to read your ramblings. I'm so behind it's not even funny.

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12-14-2005, 11:24 PM	#4
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933 User Feedback: (1)	ive seen a few in pet stores and they always seemed kinda fake looking, i was looking for something really real looking. i like the living color website for corals, i was just hoping some one might have heard of some new stuff thats "the coolest new thing"

11-21-2006, 06:48 PM	#7
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	I have not yet seen a fake anenome move like the real ones. You can get a condy anenome for probably 10 bux at the lfs. I have 3 live anenomes, piece of cake to maintain check out my avatar.. __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

11-21-2006, 06:55 PM	#8
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11-21-2006, 08:46 PM	#9
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	Sorry but I have to disagree that anemones don't need high light. You may be keeping them now under N.O.'s but anemones are different than your normal coral or fish... they die SLOWLY... over the period of months to a year. Feeding them can keep them going for even longer than that but eventually they will die... An anemone in the wild lives for hundreds of years and can techniqually live forever due to asextual reproduction, so even if you've had them for several years its not much to boast about. Sorry but I stand by my statement as I've seen plenty of anemones at my LFS go and die after months of intensive care... With metal halides and feedings I've seen them split... they move too much to go into my tanks though. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

11-21-2006, 10:40 PM	#10
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 989 User Feedback: (1)	I second what fish first said. It may be months before you even see signs of a dieing anemone. And by the time it shows signs it is too late to do anything about. Anemones are delicate creatures. They need intense lighting and most of them wont tollerate any other light but bright metal halides. Only few species do well under fluorescent. They are very delicate creatures and can easily get damaged due to sub-perfect water conditions. And like it was said above, keeping them for several years is far from an accomplishment, they do outlive humans in the wild. Unless you could provide the utmost ideal living conditions, i would advise you not to get too attatched to em. What anems do you have? I mean the latin name, since common names are usually loosely thrown around and often given to the wrong species. Also what lighting you got over those babies? __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

11-22-2006, 09:16 AM	#11
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	I agree fish, light is necessary, but anenomes would be fine in a low light tank as long as the water is optimum and the diet is consistent. The light mainly maintains the beautiful pigments of color. __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

11-22-2006, 09:52 AM	#13
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 504 User Feedback: (0)	Cool ! That sounds like a nice alternative to the real thing. Has anyone used the fakes anemones and had their clowns host them ? Won't algae over run them and will the rubber release any harmfum chemicals to the tank with the salt water being aggressive ? Just a thought.

11-22-2006, 10:41 AM	#14
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 989 User Feedback: (1)	Theyre usually made of plastics which wont release anything harmful into the aquarium. Clowns woul dpretty much host anything, from HOB filter intakes to carpet anemones. __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

11-22-2006, 11:28 AM	#15
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	I have about 80 watts of light..Yes anemones need at least some type of uv light..the zooxanthallae would die off if it had none eventually in time. With low light levels it still can survive.[IMG]e:\my_pix\1122061147[/IMG] __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

11-22-2006, 11:51 AM	#16
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,489 User Feedback: (1)	May I ask... how long have you had your anemones? What gives you the right to say they don't need intense lighting if you haven't had them for long periods of time? A year is but a blink of time for an anemone... which you have so adimantly talked about being experienced for one year... You know what I'd like to see? An anemone that has lived 10 years under inadequate lighting... if you give me an example of that, then I might change my mind. This of course excludes the anemones that don't need proper lighting such as rock anemones. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

11-22-2006, 04:34 PM	#17
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	Calm down little guy..I've had mine for about 7 months...They have no sign of discoloration from since I first purchased them. They have also grown quite a bit..10 years ago you were still in middle school..so whats your point? Common sense __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

11-22-2006, 05:32 PM	#19
TheReefAddict Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37 User Feedback: (0)	They probaly survived this long because the light fixture is prob 5 inches away from them..I don't have much coral...just a couple of shrooms due to the fact that the anenomes would rape them hahahahaha. I definately want to get more wattage but I still think they would survive under my 80 watts hehehe...Even masters with the most optimal light and water conditions experience death of anenomes.. when you captivate something from the wild it is never a sure thing anyway. __________________ 72 gal reef 2 mushroom coral (red and green) 2 condy anenomes (orange foot and purple) 1 bubble anenome 1 percula clown 1 yellow tang 1 blue tang 1 dragon goby 1 foxface 1 electric blue damsel 1 snow flake eel 1 longnose hawkfish 1 orange knob starfish 1 bristle starfish 6 orange turbo snails 3 mexican snails

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