Finally...the 40

fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 09:29 AM

Okay...so I've waited long enough...Today is the day!!!

I'm going to the lfs in about an hour to pick up my stuff...

My mom and I had a long talk last night about it, and she doesn't not want me to have saltwater or live plants, because it is too expensive, too much work, etc. And with me working 5 days a week, and school, she thinks that I don't have time for it...But I'm still going to have live plants, she just doesn't no it

I'm stocking it with 7 P. saulosi. African cichlids. 1 male, 6 females. Black Gravel, black background, and grey/light black slate or maybe even lace rock.

For plants, for now I'm sticking with a few fake, but later down the road, I'm gonna throw some onion plants and anubia in it.

Feeding is going to be mainly veggie matter...Omega 1 flakes, I forget the exact name, but the first 3 ingredients are all algeas. Supplemented with zuchini, and romain lettuce. Live foods once a month or so, and just a few at that.

That's all for now, I'll get picks of before and after, and in the process of as well while I'm setting up the tank...

Just one question...Slate, or lacerock?

http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com...us_saulosi.htm

**Ichthius** · 12-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Nice

I'd personally pick the slate rock or shale. The lace rock may be too much of a contrast. I like the look of slate better

emc7 · 12-07-2007, 05:05 PM

Lace rock will help keep your hardness up, but it is sharp and that pretty white will be green or brown overnight. I like river rock because its smooth and round and cheap. Slate is great, but I alway put it in with substrate spawners (great for julies). Toss in some hornwort, its more a weed than a plant, tell your mom it's fake. Anything else will get dug up. P. saulosi are great fish. They are one of the few I'd keep in under a 55 gallon.

fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 06:16 PM

Okay...it's up...pics tonight!!

I used slate...the tank looks AWESOME

the pics do not do it justice

fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 08:01 PM

Here's the pics...Sorry their so bad...my camera (Nikon D-40X) ran out of batteries, and I couldn't find my other camera, so I had to use my moms...whish is a piece of sh*t...I"ll get some with my nikon when the battery is charged.

They're all in order of how I built the tank up...

fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 08:02 PM

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fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 08:03 PM

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**Baby_Baby** · 12-07-2007, 08:10 PM

Totally lovely <3
you should be very proud of yourself

fishbguy · 12-07-2007, 08:16 PM

Thanks beki...I'm very proud of my work...but I need to buy more slate...they didn't have enough at the lfs:P...gonna build up the right side a bit more

joe kool · 12-07-2007, 11:04 PM

you can mix the rock types as well ... I like to mis the lace rock (which is usually a dark grey) with the slate and throw in some holey rock for contrast. Africans love holey rock because it gives more hiding places, territory, and cover. being a very dense rock it can be expensive to get shipped but you can sometimes find deals on ebay or other places ... sometimes different rock quarry companies will have it shipped in as something different (sometimes called "estate rocks or boulders" but those are usually huge and you might get lucky and find some that have broken chunks. Holey rock, being limestone, will also help to buffer you waters hardness and PH.

don't be afraid to mix rock types to help gain the height you need and want in a shorter and taller tank like that. AND as an added bonus that will give your fish more hiding places and hopefully keep aggression to a minimum

fishbguy · 12-08-2007, 08:22 AM

more pics...this time with my good camera:P

still not the greatest quality...still tryin to learn how to use the stupid thing...lol

Alse all the black in the tank isn't helping much...lmao

there's more...I just have to re-size them..stupid things

fishbguy · 12-08-2007, 08:26 AM

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fishbguy · 12-08-2007, 08:27 AM

more pics as soon as the saulosi get here...hopefully by the end of this week...

**Ichthius** · 12-08-2007, 08:49 AM

Oooh, I love it!

Looking great, Andrew. Out of interest, how much was the tank? I'd just worry about the fish knocking that vertical rock to the left down.

Oh, and the leopard/animal print wallpaper...interesting...just interesting

**JustOneMore20** · 12-08-2007, 09:35 AM

It looks great, Andrew! The fish are going to look great and really stand out against all the black in the tank.

I was going to suggest more rock, but looks like you were already planning that.

dolifisis · 12-08-2007, 10:37 AM

The tanks looking good. I'm getting that jealous tank fever again

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fishbguy · 12-08-2007, 12:34 PM

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Oooh, I love it! Looking great, Andrew. Out of interest, how much was the tank? I'd just worry about the fish knocking that vertical rock to the left down.

Oh, and the leopard/animal print wallpaper...interesting...just interesting

Yes...I'm worried about that rock:P

The stand, and tank, and some crappy filter, and some crappy heater, and a fake plant, and some crappy air stone=25 bucks

I'll prolly sylacone it together so they don't knock it down...it looks really cool that way tho:P

I'll take a pic of ym room...it's an "african" theme...so the tank completes it:P I have a leopard print comferter on my bed, I have that wall paper think, 5 or 6 african wooden masks, and some live plants, pothos to be exact, wood dressers, book shelfs, etc., and some other stuff...it's really cool...I'll try to grab some pics...

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I was going to suggest more rock, but looks like you were already planning that.

Yup...like I sid..I bought all the slate they had available, so I'll buy more next week when we get more in...lol

Chaos553 · 12-08-2007, 02:50 PM

25 bucks for all of that? is that a steal or what?

i really like the setup, black gravel/sand with decor in a tank looks very stunning no matter how advanced or new you are to the hobby. i was going to comment on the slate saying you should get more, but that topic has already been covered. just wondering, what fish are you using at the moment while the tank is cycling? looks like feeders or some kind of mollie/platy.

fishbguy · 12-08-2007, 07:44 PM

feeders:P

their actually their to keep the bacteria alive...I've had the filter running for 2 months on my turtles tank, with lots of feeder fish, so the filter is full of bacteria. I also put some media in my other filters, and once the tank was up, transfered that media to the new tank, so it's kinda like a insta-cycle...lmao...it did get a little cloudy today tho, so I added another filter for the time being.

Chaos553 · 12-08-2007, 09:03 PM

haha "insta-cycle"

i got lucky with my slate for my tank. my grandparents had a lot leftover from their previous walkway, so they gave me a bunch of it to use for my tanks. i only use some of it and i have a lot left over but i plan on designing some kind of new landscape with the rest of it.

12-07-2007, 09:29 AM	#1
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	Finally...the 40 Okay...so I've waited long enough...Today is the day!!! I'm going to the lfs in about an hour to pick up my stuff... My mom and I had a long talk last night about it, and she doesn't not want me to have saltwater or live plants, because it is too expensive, too much work, etc. And with me working 5 days a week, and school, she thinks that I don't have time for it...But I'm still going to have live plants, she just doesn't no it I'm stocking it with 7 P. saulosi. African cichlids. 1 male, 6 females. Black Gravel, black background, and grey/light black slate or maybe even lace rock. For plants, for now I'm sticking with a few fake, but later down the road, I'm gonna throw some onion plants and anubia in it. Feeding is going to be mainly veggie matter...Omega 1 flakes, I forget the exact name, but the first 3 ingredients are all algeas. Supplemented with zuchini, and romain lettuce. Live foods once a month or so, and just a few at that. That's all for now, I'll get picks of before and after, and in the process of as well while I'm setting up the tank... Just one question...Slate, or lacerock? http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com...us_saulosi.htm __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block Last edited by fishbguy; 12-07-2007 at 09:35 AM.

12-07-2007, 04:28 PM	#2
Ichthius Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 18 Posts: 749	Nice I'd personally pick the slate rock or shale. The lace rock may be too much of a contrast. I like the look of slate better __________________ - Leah -

12-07-2007, 06:16 PM	#4
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	Okay...it's up...pics tonight!! I used slate...the tank looks AWESOME the pics do not do it justice __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

12-07-2007, 08:10 PM	#8
Baby_Baby Friendly Neighborhood Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 3,607	Totally lovely <3 you should be very proud of yourself __________________ *Why do you have to "put your two cents in"... but it's only a "penny for your thoughts"? Where's that extra penny going to?*

12-07-2007, 08:16 PM	#9
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	Thanks beki...I'm very proud of my work...but I need to buy more slate...they didn't have enough at the lfs:P...gonna build up the right side a bit more __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

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12-07-2007, 05:05 PM	#3
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,902	Lace rock will help keep your hardness up, but it is sharp and that pretty white will be green or brown overnight. I like river rock because its smooth and round and cheap. Slate is great, but I alway put it in with substrate spawners (great for julies). Toss in some hornwort, its more a weed than a plant, tell your mom it's fake. Anything else will get dug up. P. saulosi are great fish. They are one of the few I'd keep in under a 55 gallon.

12-07-2007, 11:04 PM	#10
joe kool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 572	you can mix the rock types as well ... I like to mis the lace rock (which is usually a dark grey) with the slate and throw in some holey rock for contrast. Africans love holey rock because it gives more hiding places, territory, and cover. being a very dense rock it can be expensive to get shipped but you can sometimes find deals on ebay or other places ... sometimes different rock quarry companies will have it shipped in as something different (sometimes called "estate rocks or boulders" but those are usually huge and you might get lucky and find some that have broken chunks. Holey rock, being limestone, will also help to buffer you waters hardness and PH. don't be afraid to mix rock types to help gain the height you need and want in a shorter and taller tank like that. AND as an added bonus that will give your fish more hiding places and hopefully keep aggression to a minimum __________________ A conglomeration of cichlids from all over living happily in my "melting pot" of tanks. Breeding: currently nothing ... I'm sequestered in South Korea, "Osan" to be exact 2 days till I'm back in the states!!!! Florida to be exact, those Floridians have no idea what they're in for!! current Fry: see above tanks: 100, 55, 46 BF, 26 BF, 20L, 5 fry tank 20L planted with CRS is the only thing up (easy for the wife to care for in my stead)

12-08-2007, 08:22 AM	#11
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	moremore more pics...this time with my good camera:P still not the greatest quality...still tryin to learn how to use the stupid thing...lol Alse all the black in the tank isn't helping much...lmao there's more...I just have to re-size them..stupid things Attached Images __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

12-08-2007, 08:27 AM	#13
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	more pics as soon as the saulosi get here...hopefully by the end of this week... __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

12-08-2007, 08:49 AM	#14
Ichthius Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 18 Posts: 749	Oooh, I love it! Looking great, Andrew. Out of interest, how much was the tank? I'd just worry about the fish knocking that vertical rock to the left down. Oh, and the leopard/animal print wallpaper...interesting...just interesting __________________ - Leah -

12-08-2007, 09:35 AM	#15
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama, US Age: 22 Posts: 3,490	It looks great, Andrew! The fish are going to look great and really stand out against all the black in the tank. I was going to suggest more rock, but looks like you were already planning that. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 10g, 5.5g 10g N. multifasciatus tank, 5.5g Platy fry

12-08-2007, 10:37 AM	#16
dolifisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 162	The tanks looking good. I'm getting that jealous tank fever again . __________________ __________________ Doli Eclipse Corner5 False Julii Juvies Eclipse12 5 Ottos 3 White Cloud Mountain Minnows 7 False Julii Cory Cats Blue Apple Snail Live Plants

12-08-2007, 02:50 PM	#18
Chaos553 Guilty Gear Anyone? Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 410	25 bucks for all of that? is that a steal or what? i really like the setup, black gravel/sand with decor in a tank looks very stunning no matter how advanced or new you are to the hobby. i was going to comment on the slate saying you should get more, but that topic has already been covered. just wondering, what fish are you using at the moment while the tank is cycling? looks like feeders or some kind of mollie/platy. __________________ 10-Gallon Tank Empty 20-Gallon -TONS of Fancy Guppies -3 Albino Corys 38-Gallon -1 Cherry Barb (hoping to get rid of possibly for more schools) -13 Neon Tetra -2 Geophagus Jurupari -1 Red-Eye Tetra -1 Bolivian Ram -1 Green Cory -1 Peppered Cory -2 Juli Cories -(a few more cories should do it)

12-08-2007, 07:44 PM	#19
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,865	feeders:P their actually their to keep the bacteria alive...I've had the filter running for 2 months on my turtles tank, with lots of feeder fish, so the filter is full of bacteria. I also put some media in my other filters, and once the tank was up, transfered that media to the new tank, so it's kinda like a insta-cycle...lmao...it did get a little cloudy today tho, so I added another filter for the time being. __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

12-08-2007, 09:03 PM	#20
Chaos553 Guilty Gear Anyone? Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 410	haha "insta-cycle" i got lucky with my slate for my tank. my grandparents had a lot leftover from their previous walkway, so they gave me a bunch of it to use for my tanks. i only use some of it and i have a lot left over but i plan on designing some kind of new landscape with the rest of it. __________________ 10-Gallon Tank Empty 20-Gallon -TONS of Fancy Guppies -3 Albino Corys 38-Gallon -1 Cherry Barb (hoping to get rid of possibly for more schools) -13 Neon Tetra -2 Geophagus Jurupari -1 Red-Eye Tetra -1 Bolivian Ram -1 Green Cory -1 Peppered Cory -2 Juli Cories -(a few more cories should do it)

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