CM's Freshwater Marine Tank.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 01:21 PM

It's been a while since I've setup an aquarium, let alone talk about one.
Well I've moved back with my wife and kids, and had an idea of having a feature tank in the lounge that guests will be impressed with. I thought about a marine tank with clowns and that, but thought it would be rather boring and normal.
So what I've decided to have is have a freshwater marine tank. (What's that I hear you ask).
Well it's a freshwater tank that looks marine, i.e. a tank with corals, anemones, and oceon rock. The fish I've decided to put in this tank are dafodils and firemouths.
There will be coral sand and stuff, and any jerk who walks through the door will just think of it as a marine tank.

I'm looking for it to look something along the lines of this, but not as cheesey, more natural.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 01:30 PM

If the tank could look like this, I'll be over the moon. But I think this maybe wishful thinking.

Daddyo72 · 04-02-2006, 01:35 PM

You could do something like that with brackish water fish and actually throw some people off. Could be a nice puffer tank.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 01:36 PM

I've been looking around the web and this is the kind of thing I want to achive. Apart from I want my tank to be much bigger, and also I'll be using real tufa rock and coral sand.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddyo72

You could do something like that with brackish water fish and actually throw some people off. Could be a nice puffer tank.

I was thinking about that actually. But puffers just won't appreciate all the nooks and crannies in the rocks like cichlids do. The puffers won't breed either. I want this tank to be a real ecosystem.
Thanks for the suggestion, I appreciate it. But all I can see is that the puffers will just swim up and down the tank without weaving in and out of the corals like the cichlids will. Also you can't really keep much else with puffers.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 01:58 PM

These are the only two species of fish that I'm planning on keeping. I'll be keeping them in pairs.

Breeding pair of daffodils:

Breeding pair of firemouths:

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 02:03 PM

To make it seem more marine like. A few marine like inverts won't go a miss.
A few herbivirous shrimp that won't be a danger to fry, and apple snails to provide infoursia for the young will also be benificial. Maybe even some rainbow crabs and freshwater oysters. Who knows!
I'll keep you updated in what happens. I haven't even bought the tank yet.lol

ron v · 04-02-2006, 02:11 PM

Don't put the firemouths in there CM. Put julies or shellies or something like that????

**Cichlid Man** · 04-02-2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron v

Don't put the firemouths in there CM. Put julies or shellies or something like that????

Yeah I was wondering about that. As the pH may be a bit high for them with the tufa rock and coral sand. As long as the pH is around 8 they should be fine.

Georgia Peach · 04-02-2006, 03:19 PM

sounds like an awesome idea.. cant wait to see how it goes

leveldrummer · 04-02-2006, 04:04 PM

maybe keep a pair of labs or something, some of the most vibrant cichlids, and they should be ok with the daffodiils. it would look like you have some tangs in there.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-03-2006, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leveldrummer

maybe keep a pair of labs or something, some of the most vibrant cichlids, and they should be ok with the daffodiils. it would look like you have some tangs in there.

Yeah I see what you mean. But they are mouth brooders and don't live in pairs. I might get some L. lulupi instead. They will fit in better. Thanks for the suggestion.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-03-2006, 04:45 AM

Some can be nearly as bright as yellow labs too.

leveldrummer · 04-03-2006, 09:26 AM

yea good point, i was just thinkin of bright, didnt think of the lulupi, wasnt sure if breeding habits mattered to you. but some yellow would look great in a tank like that either way.

wildtiger · 04-03-2006, 09:56 AM

Please don't put apple snails in the tank, the daffodils will pick at them causing stress and eventual death. The only snails I have found that work with tangs is mts.

xerxeswasachump · 04-13-2006, 01:54 PM

Any shrimp you put in there is gonna get torn apart. Maybe a crayfish or a lobster would be ok. Are you gonna plant this tank?
I wouldn't worry about a lobster eating fry, they are slow animals.

emc7 · 04-13-2006, 11:20 PM

Put on one of those two bulb lights, I think marine fish look so luminous, because we give them brighter fixtures.

Ramis · 04-17-2006, 04:32 PM

My god, those tanks are amazing, and those fish are beautufil.

04-02-2006, 01:21 PM	#1
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	CM's Freshwater Marine Tank. It's been a while since I've setup an aquarium, let alone talk about one. Well I've moved back with my wife and kids, and had an idea of having a feature tank in the lounge that guests will be impressed with. I thought about a marine tank with clowns and that, but thought it would be rather boring and normal. So what I've decided to have is have a freshwater marine tank. (What's that I hear you ask). Well it's a freshwater tank that looks marine, i.e. a tank with corals, anemones, and oceon rock. The fish I've decided to put in this tank are dafodils and firemouths. There will be coral sand and stuff, and any jerk who walks through the door will just think of it as a marine tank. I'm looking for it to look something along the lines of this, but not as cheesey, more natural. Attached Images __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers. Last edited by Cichlid Man; 04-02-2006 at 01:44 PM.

04-02-2006, 01:30 PM	#2
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	If the tank could look like this, I'll be over the moon. But I think this maybe wishful thinking. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

04-02-2006, 01:36 PM	#4
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	I've been looking around the web and this is the kind of thing I want to achive. Apart from I want my tank to be much bigger, and also I'll be using real tufa rock and coral sand. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

04-02-2006, 01:58 PM	#6
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	These are the only two species of fish that I'm planning on keeping. I'll be keeping them in pairs. Breeding pair of daffodils: Breeding pair of firemouths: __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

04-02-2006, 02:03 PM	#7
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	To make it seem more marine like. A few marine like inverts won't go a miss. A few herbivirous shrimp that won't be a danger to fry, and apple snails to provide infoursia for the young will also be benificial. Maybe even some rainbow crabs and freshwater oysters. Who knows! I'll keep you updated in what happens. I haven't even bought the tank yet.lol __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

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04-02-2006, 01:35 PM	#3
Daddyo72 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 6	You could do something like that with brackish water fish and actually throw some people off. Could be a nice puffer tank.

04-02-2006, 02:11 PM	#8
ron v Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 61 Posts: 1,123	Don't put the firemouths in there CM. Put julies or shellies or something like that????

04-02-2006, 03:19 PM	#10
Georgia Peach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gray, Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 1,581	sounds like an awesome idea.. cant wait to see how it goes __________________ *Cichlids have more personality than most people I know !*

04-02-2006, 04:04 PM	#11
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	maybe keep a pair of labs or something, some of the most vibrant cichlids, and they should be ok with the daffodiils. it would look like you have some tangs in there. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

04-03-2006, 04:45 AM	#13
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	Some can be nearly as bright as yellow labs too. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

04-03-2006, 09:26 AM	#14
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	yea good point, i was just thinkin of bright, didnt think of the lulupi, wasnt sure if breeding habits mattered to you. but some yellow would look great in a tank like that either way. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

04-03-2006, 09:56 AM	#15
wildtiger "Salmon Free!" Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 362	Please don't put apple snails in the tank, the daffodils will pick at them causing stress and eventual death. The only snails I have found that work with tangs is mts. __________________

04-13-2006, 01:54 PM	#16
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237	Any shrimp you put in there is gonna get torn apart. Maybe a crayfish or a lobster would be ok. Are you gonna plant this tank? I wouldn't worry about a lobster eating fry, they are slow animals. __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

04-13-2006, 11:20 PM	#17
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,902	Put on one of those two bulb lights, I think marine fish look so luminous, because we give them brighter fixtures.

04-17-2006, 04:32 PM	#18
Ramis Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	My god, those tanks are amazing, and those fish are beautufil. __________________ Soon to be fish: Pigmy Cory Cat, Pair of Guppies and a Chocolate Lyre Tail Vote For FishForums!

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