High Court Ends Death Penalty for Youths

[Lydia]

heh heh i keep on getting riled up.....im sorry....im kinda bugged at someone else and i guess im taking it out on aquariumfishguy.....sorry yall

[mrmoby]

What cracks me up is how Bush saw many people put to death under his watch in Texas ( as his brother now does in Florida), yet is appalled at the notion of conducting stem cell research, which could have tremendous benefits for all of us. And they will fight to the ends of the earth to keep people alive that have no possibility of living without machinery, let alone live any kind of dignified life.

[guppyart]

I am sorry for my bad grammar and puncutation I just hate that stuff.

Originally Posted by shev @ Wed 02 Mar, 2005

well... the bible also says if you rape a virgin you can bribe the father. or if you rape a slave, the slave is punished.

the bible was written long ago and doesnt apply (in most cases) to nowadays.

And the Bible does apply to the current times, they where way more advanced than we are today.
They set up a proper government and helped create what we call science today, a lot people credit the greeks for creating science but they just sat around and spoke about philosophy which is great but they just theorized about everything they did not go out and do it.

And shev where in the bible does it say that I would like to do some more research on this subject.

[shev]

And shev where in the bible does it say that I would like to do some more research on this subject.

well...

Leviticus 19:20-22 If a man sleeps with a woman who is a slave girl promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed. 21 The man, however, must bring a ram to the entrance to the Tent of Meeting for a guilt offering to the LORD . 22 With the ram of the guilt offering the priest is to make atonement for him before the LORD for the sin he has committed, and his sin will be forgiven.

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

And the Bible does apply to the current times, they where way more advanced than we are today.
They set up a proper government and helped create what we call science today, a lot people credit the greeks for creating science but they just sat around and spoke about philosophy which is great but they just theorized about everything they did not go out and do it.

youre right, they did just poke around at things. but it wasnt until the 1600's the scientific method was invented. before it people used to make guesses, could not prove or disprove any thing, and had vague theories. well....it was actually the muslims that first invented the scientific method. but not until bacon had invented it did things start to change with the work of science. the scientific revolution was led by a few people in that time, and religion apposed them. and not just the catholic church, in fact the only thing the protestant and catholic church of the time agreed apon was that science was bad. most churches accepted the geocentric theory, earth is in the middle, and everything revolves around us, with 10 spheres around earth, after the 10th was god and all the souls. planets were not made of any earthly substance, just heavenly orbs of light. but galileo galilei invented the telescope, and found they were made of a real substance. before that the church condemned the heliocentric theory. the church told him to stop publishing his work, and put him under house arrest, where he published more.

and what governments are you referring to? israel, is where the bible was written some time near 1500 bc. more advanced how?

[guppyart]

shev they are more advanced in several ways
the buildings they built are incredible we cannot even make half of the greek and roman empires built the sculpting that both cultures did is what most people train for years to achieve

And thank you for the information about those passages

[guppyart]

Shev are some passages that talk about killing.

genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

exodus 21:12 Anyone who strikes a man and kills him shall surely be put to death.

leviticus 24:17 If anyone takes the life of a human being he must be put to death.

leviticus 24:21 Whoever kills an animal must make restitution, but whoever kills a man must be put to death.

[aquariumfishguy]

This is getting silly and pointless. We all "get it" - that is, we know where each other stand. Perhaps it was a mistake on all of our parts to even bring God's name into such a secular portion of the Web. There are parts of the bible where killing is dead wrong (no pun intended!), and other parts where it seemed to be legitimized. Can't we just leave it at that?

Besides, the way the Government is going, we might not know what the word 'God' means too long from now.

[shev]

This is getting silly and pointless. We all "get it" - that is, we know where each other stand. Perhaps it was a mistake on all of our parts to even bring God's name into such a secular portion of the Web.

he started it...

[aquariumfishguy]

Nobody started anything. Mature, responsible people should take charge of their comments and actions. Repeating bible verses doesn't seem to be getting us very far, thats all.

[(RC)]

Originally Posted by shev @ Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:27 pm

well... the bible also says if you rape a virgin you can bribe the father. or if you rape a slave, the slave is punished.

the bible was written long ago and doesnt apply (in most cases) to nowadays.

To me the Bible is a collection of short storys.. Kind of like "The Best Of The Realms" written about the Forgotten realms. Interesting to read, but that's about it.


RC

[shev]

Originally Posted by aquariumfishguy @ Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:42 am

Nobody started anything. Mature, responsible people should take charge of their comments and actions. Repeating bible verses doesn't seem to be getting us very far, thats all.

lol, i was just kidding about who started it. and i agree about quoting bible.

I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.
An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent.

Dr. Seuss, Horton Hears a Who

but quoting dr seuss is always fun.

[jonah]

By coincidence, the same day the Supremes passed this decision down, we had a 14 year old kill another 14 year old here in central Oklahoma. They got into an argument while playing basketball. One of them went in the house, got a shot gun and then shot his "friend" 3 times.

Some people are monsters, it doesn't matter how old they are. He'll be walking the streets in less than ten years, and his buddy will still be dead. No justice for anybody.

[aquariumfishguy]

Justice is all a matter of opinion though, and that's what is key in all of this. 'Who thinks what is best'? If it sounds confusing, and frustrating at the same time, this is because it is.