Just for the neon driver.

[HybridS130]

Well from what I understand you can expect to start seeing a lot more RWD cars coming back into production. Turns out that RWD is actually cheaper and easier to assemble (Blah! who knew!?). FWD came around to reduce accidents and make cars all around safer but, with new advances in technology Anti-Lock Brakes and Traction Control Systems are the primary reasons why RWD can now be safe for all drivers once again.

Rumor has it that Pontiac wants to be known once again for an all RWD lineup . It's unlikely that this will happen but it's a start. I think mechanics world wide would all wet their pants if an all RWD lineup was brought into affect by any manufacturer. For those of you that don't work on cars or those of you that have no interest in them whatsoever, RWD is heaven to work on. I love my 280zx for this reason alone. The fact that it's an L6 only makes it that much sweeter. I'll take a picture of my engine bay tomorrow to show how easy everything is to get to.

[The Gallonator]

Originally Posted by BV77

Keep buying those foreign cars while you're looking for a job....and wondering where all the jobs have gone. Brush up on your Japanese. As for me, I never have or will own a foreign car.......signed: the son of an American steelworker !

you kidding right, most 'american' cars have over 80% foregin parts in them, alot have preassmebled parts from canada and mexico. Not to mention the fact they have poor reliablity, crappy technology and the compaines are run by some of the most retarded bussinessmen ever to lie cheat and steal their way to the top. Its Honda, Toyota, Nissan for me.

[The Gallonator]

Originally Posted by BV77

and I've hauled alot of Japanese steel from Cincinnati to Detroit, for Chrysler....so, in fact , they are all the same

the steel is, its the engineering that makes a differance. Chrysler..must have been mitsubishi, the worst japanese car maker. Ask anyone like me who owns a honda (my current car is a 07 Fit, my old ones were a 93 Prelude, 90 CRX) and 99% of them will never by a car by another manufatuer again, and if they do, it will always be japanese. Not the mention our fine german porshes too.

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Originally Posted by HybridS130

Well from what I understand you can expect to start seeing a lot more RWD cars coming back into production. Turns out that RWD is actually cheaper and easier to assemble (Blah! who knew!?). FWD came around to reduce accidents and make cars all around safer but, with new advances in technology Anti-Lock Brakes and Traction Control Systems are the primary reasons why RWD can now be safe for all drivers once again.

Rumor has it that Pontiac wants to be known once again for an all RWD lineup . It's unlikely that this will happen but it's a start. I think mechanics world wide would all wet their pants if an all RWD lineup was brought into affect by any manufacturer. For those of you that don't work on cars or those of you that have no interest in them whatsoever, RWD is heaven to work on. I love my 280zx for this reason alone. The fact that it's an L6 only makes it that much sweeter. I'll take a picture of my engine bay tomorrow to show how easy everything is to get to.

i kind of see this happening too... mazda has a few concept car of rwd car. maybe others will follow. plus drifting is popular now so the FR layout car will come back.

i personally don't believe in anti-lock brakes. once the road has lower traction the system doesn't really work that well. i think ABS is just a assistance tool in braking. it is just that you can use ABS better when you learn how to brake. i seen too many people just slam on the brake and lock their tire in the rain.... people, braking is not just slam on the brake, you will lock your tire and slide...

[HybridS130]

I realize that this has gotten off topic but, oh well haha. I love my car that is all there is to it. My first car was a 1980 datsun 280zx 2 seater 5-speed and my current car is a 1979 datsun 280zx 2+2 5-speed. I have all disc brakes and only single piston calipers with 215/70/R14 tires that are usually bald anyways. I've only locked up my brakes two or three times, once was when I wrecked my first Z, I was going through an intersection as a man in oncoming thought he'd cut me off. All I remember is down shifting to third and getting on the brakes and sliding sideways after I hit him. Second time was when this idiot woman decided to stop randomly in the middle of the night on a one lane road, her lights sucked so it was hard for me to tell if she was slowing down to turn or what, turns out she just SLAMMED on the brakes because there was a coffee table leg about a foot in the road BRILLIANT! Third time was because of rain and traffic or something.

Point being, having a manual transmission makes for much better braking and of course, my car being so old I don't have ABS, TCS, SRS, or anything like that and the only times that I have locked up my brakes were because of other drivers. Now by no means do I think Im better but, I will say that Pensacola drivers are terrible especially for a city that isn't as large as many others.

Both of my Zs have never really let me down either, fuel pump went out in the first one and I popped a coolant hose in my current one and that's the only trouble it's ever given me. Sure Im always having to fix things but that's a given with a 30 y/o car but, those two things are the only times I've been officially "broken down".

I <3 my car
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that is a beautiful car there. the 280Z cars are great cars...

no ABS brake... that would sharpen up your skill... at least your braking skill...

i used to lock up brakes when i first drive... but now i am getting better at it.

terrible drivers are all over the place... especially the people who try to be fast on a busy highway... with their rice out civic... they got no skill at all... i can beat those people any day but i just don't feel like to risk my life just for an idoit. plus people don't drive with brain... they have no idea what they are doing... you don't have to follow the car in front of you like 6 inches... it won't get you any faster and if the guy in front of you brake, you are screw.

[HybridS130]

What I hate though is when I give the person in front of me space and everyone and their mother takes that as "OH!!!! CUT THIS GUY OFF FAST! AND THEN GO SLOW!?!?".

Just monday I was on my way to work and the road was empty except for a Jetta on my left and little bit ahead of me. This woman comes flying up to us fast as bawlz in an old cavalier and nearly hits the jetta, the jetta is about three feet ahead of me and the woman keeps trying to wedge her way inbetween us. Im thinking nah, no way Im going to let you in after that. Up ahead the road merges to one lane and I give the jetta some room so he can merge over and the woman is still inches from the guy's bumper. She literally forces me to back waaay off so she can get in. I hope she felt 100x better that she got to work 2 seconds faster because of all of it.

Oh and aaa, lol I take pictures of my car in such a way to hide the few rust spots i have, buwhaha.

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lol... but the car is old... it is not in that bad condition... i saw cars in much worse condition even it is not older than yours... but overall, z is a beautiful car... those part you can just change it, no big deal.

yeah... i don't understand too... obviously those people don't care about their car. if they care about it, they won't drive like that. i care about my car so i don't drive my car like an idoit. plus people try to be fast, but what they don't understand is one stupid move can cost them their life. driving is dangerous. you may get kill the next second, who knows?

i just think people should change the way they drive... if everyone drive with a brain, there is a lot of accident can be avoid. most of the time those are not even accidents, but human error.

one funny story, 2 days ago i was driving down the street and i was over the speed limit by 3 miles. a guy(i am pretty sure he is a redneck) drive 60 mph in a 40 mph road and then he brake hard because i was in front of him. he tailgate me and honk and flash the light at me but he couldn't pass because there is car from opposite direction. finally he got a chance to pass me, the honk at me again and gave me a middle finger up... 10 seconds later, he got pull over by a cop.... what an idoit... plus no offense to anyone who drive truck, but i saw many people who drive truck like to drive 30 miles above the speed limit even in heavy traffic but they can't pass because their truck is too big. they like to cut people off but they don't have balls to pass people in shoulder... i bet they will cry when one day they found out that car will always beat a truck...

plus hybrids130, you seems like one of those few non rice import fan... you really know what you talking about... we agree on some things lately...

[HybridS130]

lol yeah, I think a 30 y/o L6 RWD Sports Coupe is as far from rice as you can get. Plus the only mods I plan on doing are performance oriented, either a V8 swap or a turbo Z motor swap each has it's pros and cons. Suspension, Negative offset rims (if you can't tell my rims tuck about 2.5'' in the fender wells.

Edit: I realize that ricers out number the real car enthusiasts by far but, there really are quite a lot of true car enthusiasts that drive imports. Even the people that can be labeled as ricers are sometimes really cool people that just happen to have bad taste.

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i agree on some good people who just happen to like rice, but i just don't like people automatically label people as ricer just because they drive a import and have some common rice thing on the car (like a aftermarket rim). i just hate people who give the imports a bad name. people can have bad taste or ugly people will be lonely out there.

turbo Z... just remind me of a japanese comic Wangan Midnight... didn't read it, but it was about a guy race a twin-turbo Z.... good luck with tuning your car... i wish i have a car that i can mess with... that's why i am saving to buy a new car.

man... L6 is going to be a history at this rate.. almost no one is making L6 anymore.

[HybridS130]

BMW uses a L6 in almost every one of their cars. Diesel L6s are extremely common as well but weigh in at 1000lbs.

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yeah.. but we are talking about gas here... bmw is pretty much the only one that use it... most of the sport car switch to v6 or other engine....

i am actually looking at used car now but can't find anything good... they are either in very bad condition (like 280Z fresh from junk yard) or they are riced out and very expensive or the car is good but it is an automatic.... it piss me off...

[HybridS130]

Keep in mind that if you go with a turbo car an automatic will be faster as you don't lose boost through shifts but, either way I would prefer a manual transmission no matter what.

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i don't like turbo cars much(NA rules!!!)... so i wouldn't worry about it... manual is more fun to drive. i don't do drag racing so automatic is not the thing for me... i want a manual car.... i actually looking at 240sx... but man, those price are just crazy... i look at mr2 but so many miles on them... plus they usually look beat up... that's why i hope they make some new rwd car... so i don't have to look... maybe a few years from now but they don't make those now...

man.. we are stealing this topic...

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Originally Posted by The Gallonator

the steel is, its the engineering that makes a differance. Chrysler..must have been mitsubishi, the worst japanese car maker. Ask anyone like me who owns a honda (my current car is a 07 Fit, my old ones were a 93 Prelude, 90 CRX) and 99% of them will never by a car by another manufatuer again, and if they do, it will always be japanese. Not the mention our fine german porshes too.

didn't notice this post... porsche make good car...too expensive for me right now...

honda is pretty good... but it is just the ricers destroy the image.. mitsubishi actually make one good car - evo.
but i hate esclipes.... fwd car... come on... you can make something better than this... it just got the look...

anyway, back to topic.... dodge srt-4 is not a good car, period.