Zen Master Is Back

Ghetto · 06-14-2005, 03:41 PM

The Zen master is back. Great day for me as a lakers fan we will be champs again. click here for story

Pac-Man · 06-14-2005, 04:49 PM

eh....doubt it....shaqs gone...but good luck with your team anyway! who knows maybe they will win it...

guppyart · 06-15-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

eh....doubt it....shaqs gone...but good luck with your team anyway! who knows maybe they will win it...

I don't get what that has to do with anything being how shaq play for the miami heats. Plus shaq is to old and and getting slow and he has bad free throw averages

Damon · 06-15-2005, 12:42 PM

Shaq was the reason the Lakers won. Bottom line. Phil Jackson, while a good coach, isn't that great. He is overrated. And I'll tell you why............

1. He's never coached a team he's built. They were all champions already.
(Chicago won titles before Phil got there.)
2. The Lakers wern't built by Phil but by J. Krauss. (Again talent was in line for Phil.)
This will show once the Lakers don't win again next year unless the owners Pay for it (again).

Shaq took the heat to 1 game of the finals. Where were the Lakers?

Ownager2004 · 06-15-2005, 01:29 PM

Shaq may not be what he used to be, but i think he is still the best center in the league right now

Ghetto · 06-15-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpte

Shaq was the reason the Lakers won. Bottom line. Phil Jackson, while a good coach, isn't that great. He is overrated. And I'll tell you why............

1. He's never coached a team he's built. They were all champions already.
(Chicago won titles before Phil got there.)
2. The Lakers wern't built by Phil but by J. Krauss. (Again talent was in line for Phil.)
This will show once the Lakers don't win again next year unless the owners Pay for it (again).

Shaq took the heat to 1 game of the finals. Where were the Lakers?

1. Chicago never won until phil got there. They only have six titles

2. the Lakers were built by number 44 jerry west, and shaq nor kobe had won without phil

3. shaq still hasn't won a championship without phil, and or kobe. It doesn't matter how close you come, but whose holding the trophy at the end.

Pac-Man · 06-15-2005, 06:10 PM

But, with Shaq, the Heat came alot closer to winning it this year than the lakers did. And when wade's rib is better next year, the Heat are gonna win for sure.

And when that happens, I'll be doing this:

Damon · 06-15-2005, 10:51 PM

Easy to come in and win with a pre-made team. Everyone forgets about Doug Collins........what a shame.

Ghetto · 06-15-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpte

Easy to come in and win with a pre-made team. Everyone forgets about Doug Collins........what a shame.

YOu do know that jordan ran him out?

Damon · 06-16-2005, 09:59 AM

Jordan didn't run him off. Krauss fired him for overworking his players. He turned a 30 win team (Chicago) into a playoff contender, as he also did with the Pistons. He was a proven winner but had too much of a college coaches' ideas.

Ghetto · 06-16-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpte

Jordan didn't run him off. Krauss fired him for overworking his players. He turned a 30 win team (Chicago) into a playoff contender, as he also did with the Pistons. He was a proven winner but had too much of a college coaches' ideas.

How would Krauss know if he was overworking his players? Someone had to tell him and, or complain. That's were jordan came in.

guppyart · 06-16-2005, 11:18 PM

I pesonally think that shaq is not the best center player in the nba looks and the pheonix suns they have the best team they play as a team the have marion, admare stoudemire, steve nash who won MVP I think if they work they will go all the way next year they beat dallas and dallas has the deepst bench and a few good players

Damon · 06-17-2005, 01:35 AM

Hands down shaq is THE MOST DOMINANT PLAYER in the NBA. If they can keep a team together, they will win a title or two. Love Tim Duncan but hands down, noone can stop Shaq but Shaq.

guppyart · 06-17-2005, 11:31 AM

shaq wouldn't be so dominant without his size
admare stoudemire is better he is who learned how to do a 180 behind the back slam dunk
nash is a faster player he can shoot any wheres on the court and stilll drive

Ghetto · 06-17-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by guppyart

the pheonix suns they have the best team they play as a team the have marion, admare stoudemire, steve nash who won MVP I think if they work they will go all the way next year they beat dallas and dallas has the deepst bench and a few good players

Haven't you been watching the finals? Those are the two best fundamentals teams. Thats why phoenix got eliminated.

Pac-Man · 06-17-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by guppyart

shaq wouldn't be so dominant without his size
admare stoudemire is better he is who learned how to do a 180 behind the back slam dunk
nash is a faster player he can shoot any wheres on the court and stilll drive

But thats the whole point. Thats what makes Shaq such a dominant player, his size. But hes got skill too. Lots of it. And once his thigh gets better, he'll probably be better than admare stoudemire. And why does being able to a 180 behind the back slam dunk make him better? Its just a trick shot.

guppyart · 06-17-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

But thats the whole point. Thats what makes Shaq such a dominant player, his size. But hes got skill too. Lots of it. And once his thigh gets better, he'll probably be better than admare stoudemire. And why does being able to a 180 behind the back slam dunk make him better? Its just a trick shot.

cause he uses it all the time and it can help remove players that are gaurding you I have used it before its no trick

Pac-Man · 06-17-2005, 08:12 PM

Well, I still think Shaq will really improve once his thigh is better.

06-14-2005, 03:41 PM	#1
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Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,972	Shaq was the reason the Lakers won. Bottom line. Phil Jackson, while a good coach, isn't that great. He is overrated. And I'll tell you why............ 1. He's never coached a team he's built. They were all champions already. (Chicago won titles before Phil got there.) 2. The Lakers wern't built by Phil but by J. Krauss. (Again talent was in line for Phil.) This will show once the Lakers don't win again next year unless the owners Pay for it (again). Shaq took the heat to 1 game of the finals. Where were the Lakers? __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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Pac-Man Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 4 Posts: 585	But, with Shaq, the Heat came alot closer to winning it this year than the lakers did. And when wade's rib is better next year, the Heat are gonna win for sure. And when that happens, I'll be doing this: __________________ 29g Planted Open Top Community 1x65W Coralife PC, Sand, DIY C02 7 Neon Tetras 8 Lemon Tetras 5 Emerald Brochis 10g Planted Flourite, DIY C02 6x Java Fern 4 Cherry Barbs $$$Get Free CASH from Filling out Easy Surveys. PM me if you want some advice.$$$

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Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,972	Jordan didn't run him off. Krauss fired him for overworking his players. He turned a 30 win team (Chicago) into a playoff contender, as he also did with the Pistons. He was a proven winner but had too much of a college coaches' ideas. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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guppyart Naked wookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: canada Age: 19 Posts: 702	I pesonally think that shaq is not the best center player in the nba looks and the pheonix suns they have the best team they play as a team the have marion, admare stoudemire, steve nash who won MVP I think if they work they will go all the way next year they beat dallas and dallas has the deepst bench and a few good players __________________ photography

06-17-2005, 01:35 AM	#13
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,972	Hands down shaq is THE MOST DOMINANT PLAYER in the NBA. If they can keep a team together, they will win a title or two. Love Tim Duncan but hands down, noone can stop Shaq but Shaq. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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guppyart Naked wookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: canada Age: 19 Posts: 702	shaq wouldn't be so dominant without his size admare stoudemire is better he is who learned how to do a 180 behind the back slam dunk nash is a faster player he can shoot any wheres on the court and stilll drive __________________ photography

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Pac-Man Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 4 Posts: 585	Well, I still think Shaq will really improve once his thigh is better. __________________ 29g Planted Open Top Community 1x65W Coralife PC, Sand, DIY C02 7 Neon Tetras 8 Lemon Tetras 5 Emerald Brochis 10g Planted Flourite, DIY C02 6x Java Fern 4 Cherry Barbs $$$Get Free CASH from Filling out Easy Surveys. PM me if you want some advice.$$$

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