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Do you think I could keep a few juvenile piranhas with my 5 1/2 inch red bellied turtle or would they try and kill him? If so hows 2 Oscars or 2 Pacu sound? t.y;-)
 

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Well no... Mainly because that turtle is in a very small tank. Don't even think of adding a tank buster fish like a piranha. I would not worry about their compatability, you just don't have a proper setup for that turtle. I believe it is 10 gal per inch, so a 55gal is minimum for your turtle currently. Most suggest 75gal minimum for piranha and is also a ideal size for your turtle. It also needs some place to get out of the water, as well as a basking area with UVA and UVB bulbs to stay healthy....
 

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i would say no to this its just to much risk for the turtle they could easily nip his feet up piranha's respond to surface movement which the turtles do a lot of. also deffinetly hell no to a pacu do u know how big they get? they can get up to 30 lbs in captivity were talking like a 500 gallon tank to house an adult. oscars also get massive they need atleast 100 gallons per oscar as adults... dont even get one if you just want it to feed it live foods or you'll head up with hole in the head. now silver dollars in an adequate sized tank would be the most appropriate.
 

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I would say no. They would eat the turtle... ><
 

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Your turtle is already too big for its tank as it is. Maybe you should invest your money in a bigger tank instead of in fish that are also too big for a 10g.
What is this fascination with piranhas that everyone has?? They aren't as cool and mean as everyone thinks they are.
 

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Your turtle is already too big for its tank as it is. Maybe you should invest your money in a bigger tank instead of in fish that are also too big for a 10g.
What is this fascination with piranhas that everyone has?? They aren't as cool and mean as everyone thinks they are.
thats what i say i really dont like piranhas at all the black piranhas look kinda neat but ehhh still there are more fish that are actually plenty more aggressive they just get there reputation for being monsters because they have teeth. if chiclids had teeth they would be tearing **** up to lol. IMO puffers are way more aggressive. at work the piranhas run from my hand while the puffers come after it when im cleaning.
 

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Cichlids do have teeth. And a those fish, let alone a turtle, in a 10 gallon tank is just simply rediculous!
 

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Well no... Mainly because that turtle is in a very small tank. Don't even think of adding a tank buster fish like a piranha. I would not worry about their compatability, you just don't have a proper setup for that turtle. I believe it is 10 gal per inch, so a 55gal is minimum for your turtle currently. Most suggest 75gal minimum for piranha and is also a ideal size for your turtle. It also needs some place to get out of the water, as well as a basking area with UVA and UVB bulbs to stay healthy....
The tank my turtle is currently placed in is only temporary, I'm waiting to go and pick up a 90 gallon and 125.
 

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I was only worry about compatibility, the tank size will not be an issue in a few days. Don't want my turtle to be missing some legs when I wake up.
 

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I personally say stay away from piranha and Pacu.
Also Im assuming you still won't actually have the tank completely full. Probably like 75% or less. Thats still 60 to 75 gallons of water in a 90 or 75 to 100 gallons of water in a 125.
the turtle is going to already be a big bioload for that amount of water. One oscar MIGHT work with that.
As far as is goes for an oscar, the turtle might take chunks out of it. Just be aware of that and make sure if you do that you always keep your turtle well fed and I would stay away from live food for both of them.
 

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I was only worry about compatibility, the tank size will not be an issue in a few days. Don't want my turtle to be missing some legs when I wake up.
not to be an ass but u may have only been asking about compatability but we are all concerned fish owners only looking for whats best for the animals. and even still with an upgrade space is an issue like i said oscars need atleast 100 gallons to themselves as an adult because of size and bioload and pacus need like atleast 500. the turtle should have that size tank to themselves really the only fish ive ever seen housed with turtles that actually made me feel it was ok was koi but they were in indoor ponds that were around 3000 gallons.
 
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house anything with piranhas and its a END STORY.

some petstore do sell pacu as piranhas, cuz some petstore ppl r STUPID.

2 Oscars or 2 Pacu

Turtle will tear up oscars and pacu. Turtle eat FISH ...

a 90 gallon is fine for 2 Oscars or 2 Pacu.

125 gallon is fine for ur turtle ...

as for piranhas, if u cant keep up with them dont waste ur money on it.
piranhas r very shy fish, and it take forever to get them to get use to ppl walking by the tank without scaring them. one lilo movement and piranhas will jump, get scare.
 

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house anything with piranhas and its a END STORY.

some petstore do sell pacu as piranhas, cuz some petstore ppl r STUPID.

2 Oscars or 2 Pacu

Turtle will tear up oscars and pacu. Turtle eat FISH ...

a 90 gallon is fine for 2 Oscars or 2 Pacu.

125 gallon is fine for ur turtle ...

as for piranhas, if u cant keep up with them dont waste ur money on it.
piranhas r very shy fish, and it take forever to get them to get use to ppl walking by the tank without scaring them. one lilo movement and piranhas will jump, get scare.
you are sadly mistaken if you think 90 gallons is even large enough for one pacu dude not even adult oscars can be housed in a 90 gallon as i have stated before. here is a picture of a pacu and they can get larger than this in captivity. how these fish ever got into the pet industry is BEYOND me there are very very few people that can actually house one of these fish as an adult! and not to mention the fact that they are easily startled and very very capable of breaking a tank and ive heard plenty of peoples story's of their pacus breaking there tanks.
 

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man those are big.. and they arent even that nice looking. Ive never really understood the pull for things like Pirhannas, but then again I like peacefull community fish.
 
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no way a fish will grow to it full size in captivity unless it is house in the zoo with them big 3000 gallon or big outside pond.

the pic u post up r just lake/river fish.

show me a captivity pic of a fish growing that big and maybe ill rethink what i say.
fish breaking their tank just mean, the tank probly wasnt thick enough.
 

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I agree, red bellied pacus DO NOT belong in captivity unless you have a VERY large tank with bulletproof glass, I had one that was huge in my 180 gallon when it was freshwater and ended up getting rid of it due to the fear of him shattering the glass. I kept a couple juvi oscars in a 125 with my snapping turtle and one got eaten, the other lasted a while just fine, more than likely if you put fish in with your turtle, expect it to end up food sooner or later.
 

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Believe it or not my turtle rarely ever would go after other fish. I've had him for about a year now and he has been living with fish ever since he was born. To all that have answered thank you. A pacu is a bad idea. Pirannahs would prolly tear poor tim to shreds. A friend gave me a Jack Dempsey and that is Tim's new fish companion. Thanks for everyones' input this forum is very useful.
 

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no way a fish will grow to it full size in captivity unless it is house in the zoo with them big 3000 gallon or big outside pond.

the pic u post up r just lake/river fish.

show me a captivity pic of a fish growing that big and maybe ill rethink what i say.
fish breaking their tank just mean, the tank probly wasnt thick enough.
no offense but you dont know anything and always give terrible advice they have been documented bigger than that in captivity they can reach 30-40 lbs in captivity and 50-60 in the wild and that fish in the picture is probably around 30 lbs. i have personally seen some close to that size at a pet store i know someone right now that has one in a 500 gallon tank and is moving it into a 1000 gallon possibly. and the glass that they can shatter is plenty thick so i dont know what your talking about saying the glass wasn't thick enough because glass thickness is pretty standered in all brands of tanks and doesn't vary much if any brand to brand.
 
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